Ameraucana Blue Color question UPDATED W/SHOW RESULTS!

[Tootsie]

Well as I said, it was a sanctioned show and I wrote the person in charge and offered to withdraw or change to AOV and was advised to change to AOV but to know I wouldn't be able to get BB and that is what I did. So I was puzzled but also happy when he got the BB.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder I guess. I had one judge complain one of my hens was too small and then a year later she was still the same size and he gave her BB which she usually gets anyway so maybe it is in how they are feeling that day. Who knows?

Like when I am at the eye doctor he is testing my eyes and he says number one or number two, number three or number four and I have hardly had a chance to focus...just some humor...(I know MUCH more study goes into judging birds but I have to say it to lighten things a bit, he he).

cottagegarden said...
You seem, with a website and selling eggs, to be more of a high profile chicken type person. It would be great to take that opportunity to educate people who come to your farm or buy from you. I always think about what might happen down the road to people with what I help bring into this world. I would never want some a kid to hatch eggs, spend months raising birds, and get DQ at a show bc I didnt make the best choices I could with breeding.

I NEVER sell eggs to kids for 4 H, adults or anyone to show without going over which birds I have that are possible contenders. I usually suggest my araucanas or sometimes ameraucanas (not the ones on my site) or bearded silkies, and my phoenix for that. Many of my customers are more interested in EGG COLOR. That is why I always ask what are the goals such as possible SQ, BQ, just pets, just pretty birds or pretty eggs...and so on before selecting eggs for the person. I get to know them and go from there. You are making this to seem I am misleading the people and as I said those birds pictured presently on my site are only for people who want birds that lay a blue or blue green egg and want those kinds of LAYERS or want bird that look like that. I have a lot of other ameraucanas too and have not had the time to change my pictures yet on my site. I have whites, blues, buff & silver ameraucanas so ease up a little please, my focus is my araucanas anyway. I was just asking a color question . I have other birds I sell for possible SQ, mostly my araucanas and so forth, I have over 240 birds in 5 different coops. I am very honest with my customers and I have many repeat customers I might add .

I sincerely appreciate all of your help and input board members.​

 

[turtleblossom]

Tootsie, you may want to update your website. It is where potential buyers will get to know you, and where they will seek info on your stock. You stated that you didn't want to mislead people, and I believe that is true. However, you may be unintentionally misleading people with the content of your website. It would also be a great oppertunity to showcase your latest wins with your other breeds.

Will you be showing at the Ohio National?

 

[cottagegarden]

Some of the many Ameraucana gals.


Sorry you construed that as criticism. I think its sound advice for anyone engaged in chicken commerce.
Now that you mention it, perhaps you can see how this page taken from your website could be confusing
to someone who is just learning about chickens.
Perhaps when you get a chance to update with photos from your newer Ameraucanas you could change the title to what they are, which is
EEs. Although, as you said this...
"As for EE's I have none of them but they can hatch from and lay other color eggs. Mine are all blue and blue green layers and hatched from eggs of the same."

I wasnt even referring to the breed mis-ID with my post. I was referring to two ABC members/Amer breeder showers
telling you the Roo in question and one of the pullets have plumage issues and one should moniter that if one uses them in a breeding program. Personally I think its fantastic when BYC give helpful advice, that's what the forum is for. I am sure everyone learned a lot from this thread.

 

[LeBlackbird]

pips&peeps :

No, it is about the bird in post #1.

Mahonri knows his bird is not of show quality. Both birds, in any show situation Should be DQ'd for foreign color.

Yeah, what Pips said

 

[Tootsie]

A mountain out of a molehill. The first 4 gals in the picture were part of my original ameraucana stock, all have been sold long ago. The red single comb hen behind them is the late Nosey & is not one of them she came with Captain Jack and then the late Captain Jack Sparrow my black show araucana rooster was in the back of the picture. All in the picture are no longer here at my farm.

I don't mislead people. I never said I didn't want to but I did say that you make it appear as if I am doing that. You made it appear that I do. To make you guys happy as soon as I get the time I will put up some new pictures, when I am selling eggs I email people the recent photos of my birds for review and they are content with that. Since I am on dial up the photobucket thing takes so long for me it is much easier to just email current pics and I always do for customers whenever asked. My site limits me to only 50 photos anyway so I have reached my limit and it is hard deciding which pictures to omit.

I have no Easter Eggers, those gals pictured are pet quality ameraucanas but they are not EE's.

 

[EweSheep]

If Photobucket is limited you in 50 pictures, you can sure open up another Photobucket. I am due for another Photobucket account because my photos are up near limit space. Just be sure to login in a few times a month to keep it activated.

Please do update your website

 

[LeBlackbird]

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The ones in the pick are easter eggers. They are NOT Ameraucanas. There is no way they are ameraucanas

 

[Krys109uk]

If I kicked up this much fuss about some of the supposed "orpingtons" which get posted there would be trouble.

 

[cthrash1]

First off, congrats on your victory regardless of your boys quality, they did see something in him as an AOV even if he is a DQ in the Am event... Just wanted to put that out there, since no one else did.

As far as your 4 girls in the pic above, they are actually all EEs... None of them fit in as any of the colors by standard. Even if they are the result of two pure Ams of two different color standards, they are considered EEs just because they don't fit the standard colors. They are off colored. They could be pure Ams by blood, but a result of two different colors makes them an EE. And that looks like what may have happened with those girls. But they are beautiful regardless!!! I love AMs, EEs and Aras

 

[EweSheep]

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I agree with these comments. Even you might have purebred Amercuanas but those colors are not acceptable in the APA section. I've gotten one EE bantam which her parents are purebred Amercuanas of different colors but neverthanless, she had all the Amercuana type but wrong color. So to the advise of John Blehm, I should call her EE bantam, not Amercuana Bantam. I know the Lavenders are not accepted by the APA yet but those would have been called Lavender EE;s. Many of the ABC breeders are working on getting the Lavender color acceptable as another acceptable color for the Amercuana breed.

I am not sure where the girls came from but as for the colors, they woudl be considered EE's by the mixed colors. However you can say "I know you think they are EEs but their parents are purebred Amercuanas of different colors". That would be understood clearly why you insist they would be called Amercuanas.

Good luck!