Ameraucana thread for posting pictures and discussing our birds

[Goose and Fig]

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Am I the only one who is seeing multiple single-looking combs???

Roo 2 and roo 3 seem to have a single or pea/single combo comb?

Are all these birds related? I wouldn't use any of them if they are...

I see it in the second one? That looks like my goofy buff roo that has a rounded point single comb, or a single row pea comb- depends on how you look at him.

 

[chickee]

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Am I the only one who is seeing multiple single-looking combs???

Roo 2 and roo 3 seem to have a single or pea/single combo comb?

Are all these birds related? I wouldn't use any of them if they are...

No, none of them are single. All four rooster's combs have 3 rows, but the combs on the 3 BWs are not tight. Rooster # 2 has three rows, but the tips of the comb are long. The 3 BWs came from Paul Smith and all came out of the same breeding pen and the wheaten is from eggs I hatched from Jean.

 

[Goose and Fig]

Ahhhh- I guess I am biased towards Jean's birds

 

[jeremy]

I had 3 cockerels from Paul this year, 2 Wheatens and 1 Splash Wheaten, none had combs like that.

If it was me I would only use the Wheaten bird from Jean then.

Just my 2 cents...

 

[chickee]

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Your roosters from Paul must have come out of a different pen

Lucky you. I plan on only using Jean's rooster

 

[OSUman]

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Which is where so much of the confusion comes in. The APA has dubbed the lavender variety in several breeds as "self blue" which is incorrect by definition. AND why the ABC wants the term "lavender", aside from the fact that the gene that causes the coloring is actually called the "lavender" gene.

By definition the term "self" means that the bird is all one solid color.

The term lavender is a relatively new term as it relates to "that" color. It is not just the APA that refers to it as self blue....the ABA does as well. It has been called self blue for many, many years.
Walt

There are multiple colors that have multiple names, and multiple names that represent multiple colors.

 

[Goose and Fig]

And many colors have different names depending on breed. It can all make your head spin!

 

[fowlman01]

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I don't think anyone from the ABC was wanting the APA to "change" anything already in existence. We simply asked that the Ameraucanas be called lavender, and for the color description it could refer to the self blue description, since that seemed like a decent compromise. We were adamantly told that it wasn't going to happen.

It seems (to me anyway) that as an organization founded on and revolving around purebred poultry that as new things are discovered regarding the genetics of said poultry (i.e. the lav gene) that the organization(s) would want to make subtle changes along the way to reflect these new discoveries.

We were adamantly told that it wasn't going to happen.

Did I say that? I don't recall anything official from any club other than the Silkie club to make that change. There is no APA position on Lavender that I know of, but as I said earlier, there has to be a reason to use a description that we have ......so far......never used. The AM club is not the only breed club would like to use Lavender as a color description.

I have not seen any initiative to recognize the Lavender AM and until then it is a mute point. and whoever told you that it wasn't going to happen was not speaking as an APA representative, since no one person can do much. The membership reviews all this stuff and then the Directors vote on it...hopefully based on input from the membership.

Walt

 

[fowlman01]

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That is why we don't like a different name for the same color in each breed. A judge has a lot to remember as it is.

Walt

 

[OSUman]

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That is why we don't like a different name for the same color in each breed. A judge has a lot to remember as it is.

Walt

That makes sense