Ameraucana thread for posting pictures and discussing our birds

[tao chick]

He's carrying the wrong genes.  The yellow in the head and wing bays should be orange.  I've seen others post pics of theirs like that.  Some say they are carrying some sort of dilution gene.  Don't breed him.

Thanks. I didn't think he was coloring correctly. He's pure but bred poorly, as is the case for the BCM I purchased from the same breeder. Lessons learned. He's my roo for a mixed breed flock. I promise not to call them Ameraucanas.

 

[scflock]

Thanks. I didn't think he was coloring correctly. He's pure but bred poorly, as is the case for the BCM I purchased from the same breeder. Lessons learned. He's my roo for a mixed breed flock. I promise not to call them Ameraucanas.

I feel your pain. I did very well with my Smith Ams, but I bought BCM from a local "breeder". I've wasted a whole year on a flock that is a total scrap. I'm just trying to decide where to get my BCM from now

 

[tao chick]

I feel your pain. I did very well with my Smith Ams, but I that's the bunch ht BCM from a local "breeder". I've wasted a whole year on a flock that is a total scrap. I'm just trying to decide where to get my BCM from now

I'm not too worried about it. This non-SOP is going to hang out with the rest of my non-SOP flock (see my signature- not a show bird in the bunch unless the Brabanters improve a bit- that's the bunch I'll be working on)
sorry for typos y- phone glitch

 

[tao chick]

For teaching purposes: This guy came out of a blue egg from two Wheaten Ameraucana parents and started out looking like a typical Wheaten Ameraucana cockerel. His hackles and wing tips show something is wrong/diluted in his genetics. Not breeder quality. Not showable. Still a great bird, but I will not be breeding him as an Ameraucana or an EE. I love this face, so he gets to lead the diverse flock here.

For reference: his younger pictures:

 

[tao chick]

Ok, Jerry help me out here. This is a wheaten cockerel hatched from some eggs I sold this past summer. There was no fence jumping involved. Can you tell me what genes are at work here? (dilute) I posted this over at the ABC also.

I had to search through to find this. I don't know the official verdict, but duckwing was mentioned. If anyone could review what that means I would appreciate it. This is how my cockerel is looking, and as I said, I won't be using him as breeding stock for Ameraucanas, but what can I learn about his genetics?

 

[jerryse]

I had to search through to find this. I don't know the official verdict, but duckwing was mentioned. If anyone could review what that means I would appreciate it. This is how my cockerel is looking, and as I said, I won't be using him as breeding stock for Ameraucanas, but what can I learn about his genetics?

Possibly the cream gene at work . He looks like golden duckwing but he would have to be split for silver and gold . Not sure how cream could have got in there . I think Curtis Beck and I discussed this once on light brown hens that appeared diluted . I think he was trying for a diluted look . Could be a new dilution gene as a long shot . A silver wheaten hen could go undetected and pass for wheaten . Look at salmon faverole hens . Breeding him to test his genetic makeup would be one way to find out . Cream was said to be like a true breeding golden duckwing . I know the Cream Legbar breeders are going for a more silver looking male . So I guess there is a range of color expression on cream .

 

[tao chick]

Possibly the cream gene at work . He looks like golden duckwing but he would have to be split for silver and gold . Not sure how cream could have got in there . I think Curtis Beck and I discussed this once on light brown hens that appeared diluted . I think he was trying for a diluted look . Could be a new dilution gene as a long shot . A silver wheaten hen could go undetected and pass for wheaten . Look at salmon faverole hens . Breeding him to test his genetic makeup would be one way to find out . Cream was said to be like a true breeding golden duckwing . I know the Cream Legbar breeders are going for a more silver looking male . So I guess there is a range of color expression on cream .

Who should I test him with? My signature explains who I currently have. I'm definitely going to be working on Cream Brabanters. I scrapped my BCM group except the hen I like for the diverse flock. One of my mixed breeds is probably mostly black orpington. Most of my mixes carry dominant white though.

 

[jerryse]

Who should I test him with? My signature explains who I currently have. I'm definitely going to be working on Cream Brabanters. I scrapped my BCM group except the hen I like for the diverse flock. One of my mixed breeds is probably mostly black orpington. Most of my mixes carry dominant white though.

I was out d oing evening chores and thinking about this . I remembered champaign blond was found in some buff by researchers at one time . Wheaten has been used to improve the buff variety at times . Usually the crosses are bred back to buff trying to get good buff color . Buff carries the wheaten gene anyway . So perhaps some of the crosses were bred back to wheaten at some point . The blonde dilution could be in your wheaten . This seems more likely than my previous explanations .

To test his genetics breed him to a wheaten or whatever hen you have and then breed him to his daughters . If it is a simple recessive then it should show up in 50% of the chicks in the second breeding . Could even show up in the first breeding if the hen carries it . My guess is the hens carrying 2 copies are hard to detect and go unnoticed . Not sure if there is a name for this diluted wheaten color .

 

[trailrider330]

I had to search through to find this. I don't know the official verdict, but duckwing was mentioned. If anyone could review what that means I would appreciate it. This is how my cockerel is looking, and as I said, I won't be using him as breeding stock for Ameraucanas, but what can I learn about his genetics?

That's certainly a beautiful cockerel!

 

[tao chick]

That's certainly a beautiful cockerel!

I agree that the pips and peeps cockerel is gorgeous and if my cock turns out that nice he's going to be around a while- long enough to try to figure out his genetics.

Thank you jerry! Maybe blond. Maybe cream. I'm going to try to find some local Wheaten Ameraucana hens in the spring, but if he mates with the girls I have I will run some hatches sooner. I'll keep you posted if you're interested.