Ameraucana thread for posting pictures and discussing our birds

[tao chick]

He would be classified as Easter Egger. His chicks would also be Easter Eggers. You can't mix different color varieties and still call them 'pure', the only exception is BBS.

I didn't mix different varieties. The breeder I purchased from had what looked like standard Wheaten Amerucanas. Do you think she was mistaken?
I read the ABA definition of Easter Egger and I agree that this guy meets that definition because he doesn't meet Ameraucana standard. I do think that a middle ground is in order. Ameraucana cull (still uses the prized term of Ameraucana and "cull" has a negative connotation), Americana (way too misleading) and Easter Egger (encompasses too broad of a category) are all causing a lot of explanation and confusion that doesn't happen with other breeds. I'm not trying to argue, just discuss with the experts.
@pips&peeps, what did you do in 2012 when the silver carrier was discovered?

 

[junebuggena]

I didn't mix different varieties. The breeder I purchased from had what looked like standard Wheaten Amerucanas. Do you think she was mistaken?
I read the ABA definition of Easter Egger and I agree that this guy meets that definition because he doesn't meet Ameraucana standard. I do think that a middle ground is in order. Ameraucana cull (still uses the prized term of Ameraucana and "cull" has a negative connotation), Americana (way too misleading) and Easter Egger (encompasses too broad of a category) are all causing a lot of explanation and confusion that doesn't happen with other breeds. I'm not trying to argue, just discuss with the experts.
@pips&peeps, what did you do in 2012 when the silver carrier was discovered?

I was actually referring to any of his chicks produced by other Ameraucana. Those would also be called Easter Eggers, even if their lineage is 'pure' Ameraucana.

 

[tao chick]

I was actually referring to any of his chicks produced by other Ameraucana. Those would also be called Easter Eggers, even if their lineage is 'pure' Ameraucana.

OK. I understand that.
Searching for honesty here: If I sell his offspring as Easter Eggers or Olive Eggers: should I refer to him (dad) as a Wheaten Ameraucana? Should I mention "non-standard?" Example: "Easter Egger chicks for sale from Wheaten Ameraucana rooster and Crested Cream Legbar hen."

 

[samouw]

I read the ABA definition of Easter Egger

I wasn't aware that ABA had a definition for Easter Egger, since it is, and can be, a mix of just about any two breeds/varieties. Where did you find this definition?

 

[Percheron chick]

OK. I understand that.
Searching for honesty here: If I sell his offspring as Easter Eggers or Olive Eggers: should I refer to him (dad) as a Wheaten Ameraucana? Should I mention "non-standard?" Example: "Easter Egger chicks for sale from Wheaten Ameraucana rooster and Crested Cream Legbar hen."

call him what he is an EE. It's our duty to not muddy the water.

 

[scflock]

call him what he is an EE. It's our duty to not muddy the water.

This drives me crazy on CL. I've only been breeding and selling for a year, so most of my advertising is still CL. I advertise my EEs as EEs, and I will advertise my Ams as Ams. I try to word my ads so that people know I am being honest about the difference between the two. I don't point out the other 10 "Americana" ads that are actually EEs, because that sounds like petty bickering in an ad, but when people come to the farm, I make sure they see the differences before they leave

 

[bruceha2000]

For teaching purposes: This guy came out of a blue egg from two Wheaten Ameraucana parents and started out looking like a typical Wheaten Ameraucana cockerel. His hackles and wing tips show something is wrong/diluted in his genetics. Not breeder quality. Not showable. Still a great bird, but I will not be breeding him as an Ameraucana or an EE. I love this face, so he gets to lead the diverse flock here.

He is an EE so who says you can't breed him as an EE? Definitely want to grow out some pullets from him to see if HE carries the blue gene since, in general, people who get EEs want/expect blue or green eggs (though brown or cream can happen if the roo doesn't carry it so you suck it up). If he has the blue gene, breeding him to blue layers should produce EEs that lay blue, they just won't be an APA recognized color.

I wasn't aware that ABA had a definition for Easter Egger, since it is, and can be, a mix of just about any two breeds/varieties. Where did you find this definition?

What she said EEs are NOT a recognized breed, they are just a very popular (not) breed that resembles Ameraucanas in appearance (other than standard coloring) and some lay blue eggs.

you sure? Shes different from my former EEs.
Supposed to be a splash ameraucana. If not, I'm going to complain to the company who sold her as a full breed.

EE's look different, one of the fun things about them. You never know what the adult bird will look like based on the chick's appearance.


My June 1012 EEs - Persephone and Andromeda (front left) at 3 weeks:


Persephone at 26 weeks:



Andromeda at 18 weeks:



ETA: Andromeda (taken by a fox April 2014) laid blue, Persephone lays green.

June 2015 EEs

Athena top, Penelope bottom (I THINK!):


Eos:



At 4 months(ish)
Athena:



Penelope. She was barred for months, the barring was slowly replaced with a lacing appearance starting at the front and working back. You can still see it in the primariesback by her tail if you "biggify" the picture) Her head is all black now, time for new pictures!:


Eos (she started laying aqua colored eggs 2 weeks ago):


5 EEs and none the same. So it isn't surprising that an EE you got recently doesn't look like any you have had before.

 

[scflock]

He is an EE so who says you can't breed him as an EE? Definitely want to grow out some pullets from him to see if HE carries the blue gene since, in general, people who get EEs want/expect blue or green eggs (though brown or cream can happen if the roo doesn't carry it so you suck it up). If he has the blue gene, breeding him to blue layers should produce EEs that lay blue, they just won't be an APA recognized color.


What she said EEs are NOT a recognized breed, they are just a very popular (not) breed that resembles Ameraucanas in appearance (other than standard coloring) and some lay blue eggs.

June 2015 EEs

Athena top, Penelope bottom (I THINK!):


Eos:



At 4 months(ish)
Athena:



Penelope. She was barred for months, the barring was slowly replaced with a lacing appearance starting at the front and working back. You can still see it in the primariesback by her tail if you "biggify" the picture) Her head is all black now, time for new pictures!:


Eos (she started laying aqua colored eggs 2 weeks ago):


5 EEs and none the same. So it isn't surprising that an EE you got recently doesn't look like any you have had before.

I really love my EEs, and the colors that may pop up are always fascinating. Most of mine look like your Athena, but I have a few that are more grey, black, or white. I'm really looking forward to what I start getting when I replace the EE rooster with a blue Am. I hope he improves the muffs and beards, along with the egg color

 

[Percheron chick]

This drives me crazy on CL. I've only been breeding and selling for a year, so most of my advertising is still CL. I advertise my EEs as EEs, and I will advertise my Ams as Ams. I try to word my ads so that people know I am being honest about the difference between the two. I don't point out the other 10 "Americana" ads that are actually EEs, because that sounds like petty bickering in an ad, but when people come to the farm, I make sure they see the differences before they leave

On CL? It drives me crazy on here where people have ample opportunities to learn the difference. I think if we could get the mega hatcheries alone to change their nomenclature to EE, that would clear up half of the confusion.

 

[ken77]

So took five days to find this lol. It got in the 20s at night would they be good? Also this is second is third time I have had to find lol. Every day I Easter egg hunt lol it is fun. Ok should I mark the eggs and leave and collect only unmarked each day?