Ameraucana thread for posting pictures and discussing our birds

[Mamaperreca]

Ok. So i have a question. I have been doing quite a bit of reading about EE versus true Ameraucana. So if your bird had pea comb/no wattles/correct eye color/muffs/beard and correct color legs but the feather color is a little off then what? Is it still an Ameraucana but you just wouldn't want to include in the breeding program? Or does it become an EE just based on wrong color? Like thinking somewhere down the line (generations) it had a not true parent or grandparent?

Like in the case of Ideal saying that their birds are purebred but they don't guarantee quality. If it doesn't meet bred standard is it automatically assumed it is an EE instead of Ameraucana.

I am seriously wondering these things BTW.

I promise i am not trying to stir up any heat.

 

[TK Poultry]

an EE is a Ameraucana cross. Some label all non BQ or SQ Ameraucanas as EE's not the case. they have to have a mixed lineage. Most and I say most hatcheries ad other breeds to increase egg production and add other breeds to change egg color. There are your designer chickens like the Olive Egger but when it comes down to it if it were to be classified in my eyes it would either be a Marans cross or an EE whichever way you look at it. That is the definition IMO of an EE and we need to also put this in writing somewhere for reference.

 

[ByN8ureHomstead]

I have a young her (almost 6 months) that is letting a young rooster mount her. How close to laying is she?

 

[Illia]

If she's actually squatting for him - She's days away from laying or already laying.

 

[Muggsmagee]

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If you take a Golden laced Wyandotte and breed it to a Silver Laced Wyandotte, you will still get a Wyandotte. But it would not fall under a color category, so would not be considered a true/pure breed. I don't just have Ameraucanas....I have LAVENDER, SILVER, BLACK, BUFF, and WHEATEN. I feel an EE is a blue egg laying bird mixed with any other bird. If you cross two different colored Ameraucanas, you still have an Ameraucana, just not a pure color. Also, some breeders use colors of Ameraucanas to cross to other colors of Ameraucanas to improve their lines. Whether it be for size, color, new genes, etc.

Ideal has told other people they have true Quechua birds. I'm not sure about that. I don't feel the question pertaining to hatchery quality is at play...we already know that you don't go to hatcheries for SQ birds...of any breed. It is the misgiven information that they are selling true Ameraucanas, when most likely they are not. If they labeled their birds Quechua, that would make me feel better. Is it ONLY Ameraucanas that get the wrong label at hatcheries? That is where this gets frustrating, because we don't hear of people buying a Rhode Island Red and really getting a Buff Orpington!

 

[Goose and Fig]

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If you take a Golden laced Wyandotte and breed it to a Silver Laced Wyandotte, you will still get a Wyandotte. But it would not fall under a color category, so would not be considered a true/pure breed. I don't just have Ameraucanas....I have LAVENDER, SILVER, BLACK, BUFF, and WHEATEN. I feel an EE is a blue egg laying bird mixed with any other bird. If you cross two different colored Ameraucanas, you still have an Ameraucana, just not a pure color. Also, some breeders use colors of Ameraucanas to cross to other colors of Ameraucanas to improve their lines. Whether it be for size, color, new genes, etc.

Ideal has told other people they have true Quechua birds. I'm not sure about that. I don't feel the question pertaining to hatchery quality is at play...we already know that you don't go to hatcheries for SQ birds...of any breed. It is the misgiven information that they are selling true Ameraucanas, when most likely they are not. If they labeled their birds Quechua, that would make me feel better. Is it ONLY Ameraucanas that get the wrong label at hatcheries? That is where this gets frustrating, because we don't hear of people buying a Rhode Island Red and really getting a Buff Orpington!

ALSO- pure ameraucanas will BREED TRUE. A respectable breeder would never sell you green- legged or mixed color birds and let the buyer assume they were "the real thing". Unfortunately, plenty of people have been so misinformed they are convinced they have the real thing!

I'm having similar problems trying to find more Orloffs. There are a few hatcheries that carry them, but they are sooo faulty you might as well spend the money to have breeder birds shipped.

 

[bacres]

Does anyone have any Buffs!

 

[ByN8ureHomstead]

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Cool. She squatted for him and he did the satisfaction shake when he was done. If she is laying now there is no evidence left over.

Will hatch mates start laying at about the same time?

 

[Goose and Fig]

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Cool. She squatted for him and he did the satisfaction shake when he was done.

That's the "you messed up my feathers!" shake

 

[jeremy]

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LOL!