Ameraucana thread for posting pictures and discussing our birds

[CackleJoy]

These look a lot like my SBEL I make.

Is that Super Blue Egg Layer? AM/Leg cross?

 

[CackleJoy]

When did you buy your chicks from"papa" ? I know he put all his ameraucanas + his easter eggers in one pen to make room for other breeds a while back ... If you got chicks from him after that they could be mixed ....,

His EE's are off of Jubilee and other Orpington's - they could not be more obvious with their markings. Red and white feathers, green or yellow feet, some straight combs or clean faced - classic EE's. He had put a couple hens in the AM pen to give them a break from the bigger cockerels. I was worried about being able to tell the difference until I quizzed him on it. The AM's are still pure. He just doesn't separate out the eggs so you get a percentage of EE's with the hatch. I like EE's in the breakfast maker pen so it suited me fine. I'm culling hard so if something looks off (example, an otherwise perfect bird has a small muff) there is no way I'm keeping it.

Tomorrow I will have to get photos of the EE's so you can see that there is little chance of a mistake.

 

[jajeanpierre]

No, it's a blue with darker blue splashes - on the tail. I will have to get a photo for clarification. The markings are not white.

Oh, guess I just assumed you meant white because you thought the bird was a splash.

Do you mean something like this photo? This is a picture of the wing of a blue, yes blue, bantam Cochin cockerel. I hate the pattern/lacing on this bird, but the breeder--a very reputable breeder/judge--and other judges and breeders haven't been as bothered by it as I have.

 

[johnderosa1]

His EE's are off of Jubilee and other Orpington's - they could not be more obvious with their markings.  Red and white feathers, green or yellow feet, some straight combs or clean faced - classic EE's.  He had put a couple hens in the AM pen to give them a break from the bigger cockerels.  I was worried about being able to tell the difference until I quizzed him on it.  The AM's are still pure.  He just doesn't separate out the eggs so you get a percentage of EE's with the hatch.  I like EE's in the breakfast maker pen so it suited me fine.  I'm culling hard so if something looks off (example, an otherwise perfect bird has a small muff) there is no way I'm keeping it.  

Tomorrow I will have to get photos of the EE's so you can see that there is little chance of a mistake.

I have 2 easter eggers out of his jubileexee cross and they are exactly as you described... I would still do some rigorous test hatches before using any birds just to be double sure that there isnt anything lurking under there.

 

[FLF]

Jean, at the Ohio National this past year someone was showing a pullet like these birds as a Splash at the Show. It was a large fowl Ameraucana, pure white with pure black pitches (think like the pain coloration in silkies). It did not look like a splash. This is the second time I'm seeing birds like this from our area. Any Idea what is going on genetically?

Who did you get them from?  What color cock bird was in the pen?

No, white should not be in the black/ blue pen.  You can use black to improve your whites but usually not the other way around.

The eyes on the birds look really light too.  What do the legs look like on the female?

Also, this bird is not splash it is blue:

 

[DMRippy]

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Yeap. I will add the first cross of these all have slate legs. Yellow legs are recessive and need 2 copies to express.

 

[Little Wing]

Yeap.  I will add the first cross of these all have slate legs.  Yellow legs are recessive and need 2 copies to express. 

With my AM/Leg crosses, only the females have slate legs. The males have whiteish colored legs. Not at hatch but around 3 to 4 weeks.

 

[pips&peeps]

Jean, at the Ohio National this past year someone was showing a pullet like these birds as a Splash at the Show. It was a large fowl Ameraucana, pure white with pure black pitches (think like the pain coloration in silkies). It did not look like a splash. This is the second time I'm seeing birds like this from our area. Any Idea what is going on genetically?

There was someone on this thread also that posted some birds that looked like that a few years ago. They appeared to me to be dominant white with black leakage. The person got very upset when I said something about the color issue.

Maybe they bred those birds into a blue and black line and that is what we are seeing now......

I posted the silkie standard for splash a few pages back and I would think most other birds would be very similar to that

 

[FLF]

Do ypu think that would explain what seems to be an epidemic if people posting White chicks coming from supposed "Blue Black Splash" pens of various certain "breeders"? There were 2 recent cases on the Ameraucana FB and I think a couple mentioned here as well.

I'm not good with white genetics, but doesn't it seem like this could really hurt the BBS variety?

There was someone on this thread also that posted some birds that looked like that a few years ago.  They appeared to me to be dominant white with black leakage.  The person got very upset when I said something about the color issue.

Maybe they bred those birds into a blue and black line and that is what we are seeing now......

I posted the silkie standard for splash a few pages back and I would think most other birds would be very similar to that

 

[8isenuff]

If I have Blue and Splash hens, can I put a white (true white) roo over them and ever get white chicks? IF white is recessive, would it take several generations and a lot of luck? Same question for Blue Wheaten...