Ameraucana thread for posting pictures and discussing our birds

[samouw]

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I have a friendly rivalry with Ravyn, but all of this helps me learn. Susan needs to quit winning all the SC shows

Oh, Hi Susan

That's what I was hoping for. I've never seen slipped tendons just show up that long after hatch

Neither have I.

On the two cockbirds that you are Ravyn are comparing - they are really very similar. I'll take another look tonight when I have more time and take a closer look at the combs, and beards and muffs. From what I've seen right now - both of them have some very nice traits and, with the right hens, could have some awesome chicks!

I'm ready for some competition! I mean, I like bringing home the ribbons, but it makes it much more fun when there are other birds on the Ameraucana row than just mine! LOL

 

[Ravynscroft]

Neither have I.

On the two cockbirds that you are Ravyn are comparing - they are really very similar.  I'll take another look tonight when I have more time and take a closer look at the combs, and beards and muffs.  From what I've seen right now - both of them have some very nice traits and, with the right hens, could have some awesome chicks!

I'm ready for some competition!  I mean, I like bringing home the ribbons, but it makes it much more fun when there are other birds on the Ameraucana row than just mine! LOL

Thanks, Susan! I look forward to hearing your observations...

 

[scflock]

Neither have I.

On the two cockbirds that you are Ravyn are comparing - they are really very similar.  I'll take another look tonight when I have more time and take a closer look at the combs, and beards and muffs.  From what I've seen right now - both of them have some very nice traits and, with the right hens, could have some awesome chicks!

I'm ready for some competition!  I mean, I like bringing home the ribbons, but it makes it much more fun when there are other birds on the Ameraucana row than just mine! LOL

I'm fairly certain Oz will show, and I'm selling a lot up here so maybe some more will. I'm keeping next weeks hatch to grow out, so maybe there will be some competition there, too

 

[scflock]

Well I must confess I borrowed that frog pic and pasted it on another thread . A breeder calls his meat crosses toads . So I asked if that was a toad egg . My mother was half French so I know about the French being called frogs .

By the time I realized the somewhat racist tone of the title, I had already clicked "submit"

 

[bruceha2000]

I want to move to Florida! I am tired of the cold!!!! Brrrr I have been cold all day! My husband would never move!!!

Heeeeeeere's Johnny! All together now: "How cold was it?"

I'll bet it was not 0F like it was here this morning. Nor will it be -3F like it will be here tomorrow morning. Put on a sweater

This would be recessive . Several people have had these pop up from Paul . Most White Ameraucana are recessive . Dominant is rare . Dominant is useful in some project colors . I created or borrowed my dominant whites . I have sold eggs to some people who had a need for dominant . Wheaten based red Pyle is one project using it .

OK so what is the difference between recessive white and dominant white? If the bird is recessive white (meaning born of parents that carried only one white gene??) it has 2 white genes and can only pass on white genes. But apparently the bird will only "throw" white chicks 100% of the time if mated to another recessive white bird. If mated to a bird carrying 1 recessive white it will throw some whites based on the Punnett Square. So how do you get a dominant white bird??

Ok, crash course in (very) basic genetics, without getting into meiosis, mitosis, halitosis..or any of those other -osis terms that muddle things up.

There are basically two types of genes - dominant and recessive. Each chicken, for that matter each of us, has two copies of every genetic trait. One side comes from the male parent and one comes from the female parent. A dominant trait is a bossy trait - it's going to show its stuff, even if only one side is the dominant one. A recessive trait is the wallflower - it has to be coaxed out in public, and then only if it is holding hands with its twin.

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Pretty impressive for a financial software developer turned manager Susan

 

[samouw]

Heeeeeeere's Johnny! All together now: "How cold was it?"

I'll bet it was not 0F like it was here this morning. Nor will it be -3F like it will be here tomorrow morning. Put on a sweater

OK so what is the difference between recessive white and dominant white? If the bird is recessive white (meaning born of parents that carried only one white gene??) it has 2 white genes and can only pass on white genes. But apparently the bird will only "throw" white chicks 100% of the time if mated to another recessive white bird. If mated to a bird carrying 1 recessive white it will throw some whites based on the Punnett Square. So how do you get a dominant white bird??


Pretty impressive for a financial software developer turned manager Susan

Recessive white and dominant white are actually two different genes. A bird can have both recessive and dominant white genetics - it will appear white and you won't know until you do test breeding that it is carrying both genetics.

Not really all that impressive - coding and genetics are both based on relatively simple math...and I love math! Plus, I was breeding dogs and horses for many many years before I got into chickens and have written published papers on genetics - my "Genetics of TVD" may still be floating around out there. It is a primer on the basics of genetics, then applied to a genetic anomaly in Labrador Retrievers, tricuspid valve dysplasia.

 

[jerryse]

So how do you get a dominant white bird??



Well easy way you buy from someone that has them . Hard way you borrow from another breed . Every color in Ameraucana has been borrowed at some point .

I created my own ( borrowed ) . It takes years and I am going to breed 2 of them together this year to get birds with 2 copies . Up until now I have bred to blacks to improve type and other traits . Not really any advantage except it is useful in some color projects like Red Pyle . You have to have dominant white to make red Pyle .

 

[jerryse]

So here is a hen with 1 copy dominant white from a couple of years ago .

 

[jerryse]

Here is another type of dominant white . This type creates the Erminett pattern . There is a inhibitor of dermal melanin linked to this one . Always get white legs with this . Genetically slate legs but inhibited . This one has barring also so 2 different inhibitors of melanin . Never make it as a Ameraucana color because of the leg color .

 

[cgmaster]

I have learned in the past year that you always need a new pen

I have 7 chicken pens and one goose pen and I have 5 more chicken pens under construction and a replreplacement goose pen so I can use the old one for a garden

In other news I have 3 wheaten/blue wheaten eggs (from my own flock) in the Bator do to hatch next week this is my first year hatching pure ameraucanas, last year was my first year hatching anything besides cockateils (and they hatched thm themselves)