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Ameraucana thread for posting pictures and discussing our birds
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Thanks Muggs.
Walt- does Duane Urch have a website?
I don't know, but it would surprise me if he did.
Walt
Thanks Muggs.
Walt- does Duane Urch have a website?
I don't know, but it would surprise me if he did.
Walt
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Jeremy, thanks for posting these....always fun to see how they are turning out.
You got these from cherylcohen, right? I think that puts them between 5 and 6 months
old. Are they laying yet? If not, probably any day now.
Jeremy, thanks for posting these....always fun to see how they are turning out.
You got these from cherylcohen, right? I think that puts them between 5 and 6 months
old. Are they laying yet? If not, probably any day now.
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WOW!!! Just wow! The "blue wheaten" cockerel may have slate legs, but his coloring is WRONG. The "blue wheaten" hen has green legs in addition to her color being wrong and type...ugh...just look to her posterior. And the "wheaten" roo has wattles, hardly any beard, and what's with the ticking?
Am I being harsh...in this case...YOU BET! I heard Gordon Ramsey say recently that people learn best when they are criticized harshley, this is SO true.
Don't paint yourself in a corner by being on the side of right and not being open to learning as MUCH as you can about what you have. We all have a passion for this breed and it does nothing for us if we don't learn from one another and take the advice from people who have nothing better than the breed's interest at heart.
Be very careful about being critical of color that you are seeing on a monitor. NO ONES monitors will show the same color unless it has been calibrated at least once a day to a Pantone program or some other color correcting program. One of my duties at the university was to be sure that all the graphics computers were properly calibrated to show color accurately. They all show color differently unless calibrated daily. The hen has slate legs on my computer and the posterior can look like that for many reasons....note that the right foot is much more forward than the left foot as a for instance. If the hen has green legs it should be DQ'd, but I don't think is has green legs.
Again they are not perfect by any means, but I don't think they fall into the EE class and I don't think any of those bantams would be DQ'd for color or type. That could change if I saw them in person. Online pics can be very deceiving.
What about the width of tail feather and the lack of tail break in the hen? I doubt that an EE would have those qualities. I would almost bet that those bantams came from a breeder and not a hatchery.
Walt
Walt, I come from a graphics background as well. Sure wish poultry had a Pantone system for translating color. Sometimes
it is hard to translate the written SOP to real life and sometimes the language of the SOP and the SOP illustrations do not always
seem to be the same.
WOW!!! Just wow! The "blue wheaten" cockerel may have slate legs, but his coloring is WRONG. The "blue wheaten" hen has green legs in addition to her color being wrong and type...ugh...just look to her posterior. And the "wheaten" roo has wattles, hardly any beard, and what's with the ticking?
Am I being harsh...in this case...YOU BET! I heard Gordon Ramsey say recently that people learn best when they are criticized harshley, this is SO true.
Don't paint yourself in a corner by being on the side of right and not being open to learning as MUCH as you can about what you have. We all have a passion for this breed and it does nothing for us if we don't learn from one another and take the advice from people who have nothing better than the breed's interest at heart.
Be very careful about being critical of color that you are seeing on a monitor. NO ONES monitors will show the same color unless it has been calibrated at least once a day to a Pantone program or some other color correcting program. One of my duties at the university was to be sure that all the graphics computers were properly calibrated to show color accurately. They all show color differently unless calibrated daily. The hen has slate legs on my computer and the posterior can look like that for many reasons....note that the right foot is much more forward than the left foot as a for instance. If the hen has green legs it should be DQ'd, but I don't think is has green legs.
Again they are not perfect by any means, but I don't think they fall into the EE class and I don't think any of those bantams would be DQ'd for color or type. That could change if I saw them in person. Online pics can be very deceiving.
What about the width of tail feather and the lack of tail break in the hen? I doubt that an EE would have those qualities. I would almost bet that those bantams came from a breeder and not a hatchery.
Walt
Walt, I come from a graphics background as well. Sure wish poultry had a Pantone system for translating color. Sometimes
it is hard to translate the written SOP to real life and sometimes the language of the SOP and the SOP illustrations do not always
seem to be the same.
I wish I could get a color sample card for chicken skin and feet and legs. You know like the one for eggs?
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I've eaten my Ameraucana culls and though they are small, they are tasty.
Surely there is a better way to educate folks about Ameraucanas, Easter Eggers, and showing? I'm sitting here reeling right now. I think a handful of "purist" Ameraucana folks have managed to offend and piss off a WHOLE lot of people in the poultry business - including JUDGES - that simply needed to be educated.
I've eaten my Ameraucana culls and though they are small, they are tasty.
Surely there is a better way to educate folks about Ameraucanas, Easter Eggers, and showing? I'm sitting here reeling right now. I think a handful of "purist" Ameraucana folks have managed to offend and piss off a WHOLE lot of people in the poultry business - including JUDGES - that simply needed to be educated.
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Does anyone in New Hampshire or Rhode Island have two Ameraucan pullets for sale? Any color plummage, that doesn't much matter, but blue egg color is important to us.
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Your best bet is to place a Want to Buy ad on BYC here: https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewforum.php?id=56
Your best bet is to place a Want to Buy ad on BYC here: https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewforum.php?id=56
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I've eaten my Ameraucana culls and though they are small, they are tasty.
Surely there is a better way to educate folks about Ameraucanas, Easter Eggers, and showing? I'm sitting here reeling right now. I think a handful of "purist" Ameraucana folks have managed to offend and piss off a WHOLE lot of people in the poultry business - including JUDGES - that simply needed to be educated.
This has been brought up on this thread before, and what it boils down to is that it's an emotional topic for everyone involved.
On one hand, the information is out there and readily available if people CHOOSE to seek it out. Most of us frankly are tired of repeating the same information time and time again. Personally, if I don't feel that I can diplomatically explain it, I choose to keep my mouth shut. More than once I have seen people on this thread that yes, while they know what they are talking about, shove their opinions down the throats of others and be extremely rude about it. I have also seen people politely offer their advice or opinions and then leave it alone.
On the other hand, we all love our pets, and nobody wants to hear that their beloved pets are less than perfect. Nobody wants to hear that they've been had, either on purpose, or by false advertising. Those of us who have shown our birds have learned to take criticism as it comes, but at some time we were all the newbie that had their feelings hurt or their hopes dashed, either by a judge placing our birds dead last, or by someone critiquing the birds we thought were great and telling us they are less than perfect (or that they are total garbage).
EM Squared is either going to listen or not, her choice. Maybe when her son shows the EEs and gets DQ'd she'll come back and take the advice she was offered. Maybe she won't. Maybe he'll show them at local county fair level and WIN with them. But this particular conversation really needs to go to bed now before a mod locks our thread.
I've eaten my Ameraucana culls and though they are small, they are tasty.
Surely there is a better way to educate folks about Ameraucanas, Easter Eggers, and showing? I'm sitting here reeling right now. I think a handful of "purist" Ameraucana folks have managed to offend and piss off a WHOLE lot of people in the poultry business - including JUDGES - that simply needed to be educated.
This has been brought up on this thread before, and what it boils down to is that it's an emotional topic for everyone involved.
On one hand, the information is out there and readily available if people CHOOSE to seek it out. Most of us frankly are tired of repeating the same information time and time again. Personally, if I don't feel that I can diplomatically explain it, I choose to keep my mouth shut. More than once I have seen people on this thread that yes, while they know what they are talking about, shove their opinions down the throats of others and be extremely rude about it. I have also seen people politely offer their advice or opinions and then leave it alone.
On the other hand, we all love our pets, and nobody wants to hear that their beloved pets are less than perfect. Nobody wants to hear that they've been had, either on purpose, or by false advertising. Those of us who have shown our birds have learned to take criticism as it comes, but at some time we were all the newbie that had their feelings hurt or their hopes dashed, either by a judge placing our birds dead last, or by someone critiquing the birds we thought were great and telling us they are less than perfect (or that they are total garbage).
EM Squared is either going to listen or not, her choice. Maybe when her son shows the EEs and gets DQ'd she'll come back and take the advice she was offered. Maybe she won't. Maybe he'll show them at local county fair level and WIN with them. But this particular conversation really needs to go to bed now before a mod locks our thread.
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