American serama thread!

[insanity]

I am curious about this from the solve the mystery angle:

It is posable that if the infertility is hormone based it could result in low sex drive as low levels of certain hormones in humans can affect our sex drive, so why not birds too? What if he is incompletely formed boy? Does he crow? I read someplace on the forum someone knew someone who was trying to breed quieter roos and with the lack of crowing he noted his fertility rates dropped significantly. Crowing is a behavior the roos do that could be tied to sex drive? It seems less dominate young roos often will not crow until the dominate roo is removed... so I am wondering either biological or behavior wise what is the issue. Short of sperm counting him and having the sperm examined I am unsure (I have no idea if any one does that for roos). It could be too he has sperm but it is not good, flawed to the point no viable fertilization occurs. It will be interesting to see if the hens cross breed now that you moved them.

He does crow a bit but not as much as my other bantam. Now you have me curious, hormones, counts, behavior and so on. Mainly I'm hoping they can live as real chickens for a while, instead of like a pet parrot. I'll post picks if I get any chicks out of them. Daryl the splash bantam is already courting the smaller female and totally ignoring the serama roo. So it looks like they are getting along with the bigger bantams.

This is Daryl so any mixes should look Ok.

 

[Lauravonsmurf]

He does crow a bit but not as much as my other bantam. Now you have me curious, hormones, counts, behavior and so on. Mainly I'm hoping they can live as real chickens for a while, instead of like a pet parrot. I'll post picks if I get any chicks out of them. Daryl the splash bantam is already courting the smaller female and totally ignoring the serama roo. So it looks like they are getting along with the bigger bantams.

This is Daryl so any mixes should look Ok.

Oh he is nice looking proud boy

 

[artsyrobin]

I have seen a male not try when he knows it's an impossible feat to tackle. I have recently experienced myself. When I finally put the smallest of my girls in, he did the job and I have fertile eggs. With 3 different pullets that were only a small amount larger, he showed absolutely no interest whatsoever.

that is really interesting!

 

[MountainSeramas]

Hi! I have a question for some of you serama experts. This might sound a bit odd, but I have a serama cock (laced pumpkin) and he repeatedly reproduces males that have more of a partridge hen pattern (could be multi laced?) and they develop very few male sex feathers. They look like males, crow, breed, all of that stuff but like I said they develop very few male sex feathers and are mostly "hen feathered". I had one male that had absolutely no sickles, hackle, or saddle hackle and he only lived for about two years. They look and act perfectly healthy but they don't seem to live as long as some of my other roosters. No inbreeding in my flock. Some of them will produce a very minute amount of saddle feathers and some pseudo lesser sickles, but rarely any main sickles. What's going on here? They are definitely a curiosity. Spurs are also stunted and at times hen like.

 

[froggiesheins]

Hi! I have a question for some of you serama experts. This might sound a bit odd, but I have a serama cock (laced pumpkin) and he repeatedly reproduces males that have more of a partridge hen pattern (could be multi laced?) and they develop very few male sex feathers. They look like males, crow, breed, all of that stuff but like I said they develop very few male sex feathers and are mostly "hen feathered". I had one male that had absolutely no sickles, hackle, or saddle hackle and he only lived for about two years. They look and act perfectly healthy but they don't seem to live as long as some of my other roosters. No inbreeding in my flock. Some of them will produce a very minute amount of saddle feathers and some pseudo lesser sickles, but rarely any main sickles. What's going on here? They are definitely a curiosity. Spurs are also stunted and at times hen like.

All I can say is there is a possibility the ROO himself is very inbred or has a defective gene to consistently cause these strange anomolies. Just my two cents worth

 

[MountainSeramas]

Hey, you could be right! It's funny because I never thought about the possibility of him being inbred. Could very well be possible. Sometimes it takes an outsiders perspective! Now that you mention it, I do have a frizzled pullet from him (I've been trying different hens with him) that has two different colored eyes, two different colored legs, and has half frizzled and half smooth feathered chest. She's definitely unique. Most of the young ones by this rooster are completely normal but he does throw out his share of weirdos.

 

[KilnChick]

Ok I giving up. I got a class A trio last July and have set every egg since. Not one has been fertile. One hen is proven so I think its the roo. No more serama for me. I have another proven bantam roo ( about 1 1/2lb)and 4 small assorted hen. All 8 are going out to the garden. Mutts are better than nothing. I am very frustrated with trying for chicks. Has anyone else had a lazy roo.

Don't give up! Would you like another Roo? I have an extra. Are you incubating or do you have a hen or hens who have sat on the eggs? And how old is your Roo?

 

[KilnChick]

he is king of the serama room- yes they have their own room in the house- after this winter i decided what is the point in moving them outside for a month for two then back inside for the summer then back out in the fall and back in for winter- nope not gonna do it- anyway so that room he has the big pen with his Lady Mary, faverole - and my other pairs, so you walk i n and they happily say hello... Each group gets time out to play- the advantages of working from home- one day i had them out in the evening and found them in the bathroom... He is a frizzle serama. I have this girl i hatched from Laura Castle Gizmo lays an egg once every few months, she is a micro about the size of a tennis ball. here is a link to her thread- https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...ramas-post-your-photos-and-share-your-stories if you have a way to hatch them, i'd check with Laura on eggs- she does a wonderful packing and shipping Most of mine have come from @Ok_Junebug she has wonderful birds, and does ship. this is a pair from her that is really interesting!

I would love to have a micro set! Do you have more and if so would you sell them? Or even 1?

 

[MountainSeramas]

It can be "hit and miss" with small roos sometimes. Like Kilnchick said, don't give up! They are definitely worth the wait.

 

[artsyrobin]

@KilnChick check with @Ok_Junebug , are you on facebook, i am a member of a couple serama groups that might be able to help you out- if not i'll ask if anyone is near you. Also, check this thread


https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/622175/silkied-serama