American serama thread!

I'm going to pick up some stack cages for the garage this winter this afternoon. They aren't fancy but I can make them a very tolerable substitute for living out in the freezing weather. I've found that on a wire floor, they are fine with plain wire but plastic coated is better to keep from tearing wing feathers. I like to give them an alternative area that isn't wire so I've found the rubber welcome mats that are around $3 at Walmart work perfect. I cut them in half and put them under the feeder with the little tips up. That catches poop so I have to take them out and hose them off every few days but it also catches scratched out feed so less waste and they like pecking those pieces out from between the little nubby things on the mat. Other than that, they can have the garage doors open or the windows on milder days for fresh air and there are 2 windows for sunshine to come in part of the day. I dealt with cages with shavings last winter and while it worked okay, it was pretty messy because the cages were not made for that and I had cardboard around the bottom of the cages to prevent it spilling out onto the floor which, of course, didn't work well but it kept them from scratching it "all" out.

My outside cages can be winterized a bit with some covering over a couple sides and I can use them for some breeding pairs of my Araucana's which tolerate the cold fine. They will go back to the larger coops in the spring.

This morning my husband announced he was looking at buying a small shed for my Serama's
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It's small (8 by 12) but I only have a few Serama's and I'm very good with organizing my space so it would be perfect for chicks and for wintering over and it's insulated. I'm pretty sure I could have him put some outside runs on one side for nice days in the winter later. It's well insulated, wired and has some plumbing so I can at least run cold water and have a little sink for cleaning except during the coldest time in the winter. A heat lamp should be enough for the entire building and we already have a couple of crank out, insulated windows for it with screens. It will definitely be my playhouse and it will be close to the house so of course I'll need to dress it up on the outside to look nice in the yard
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I'm also very excited thinking I would have a fairly tight area for them too. I use Oxine for cleaning so in an enclosed area, I can put it in a cool mist humidifier occasionally to keep the air sanitized and fresh for them.

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I hope the deal works out with the guy selling.
 
Good Morning,
I have a few questions about cages.
We are thinking 24x24.
Flooring is one undecided??????
The rubber mats sound good for cleaning.also thought about linolium over the wire...........
The next undecided is wire for the inside walls or solid wood??????
And do we need ventilation other than the wire doors?
Any feed back is appreciated.
I have mostly colapsible dog kennels right now..........my arms are not long enought reach them with these......
and my main goal at this time is taming them and practicing posing so having to stretch and grab is not the best
situation to build trust.

Thank You
 
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Wow, I thought I needed small cages so they stand upright but I guess im wrong. Another question please about showing young seramas... I have some nice young just turned 4 months and want to sown them now. Will they be to young to show? The cockerals are still peeping but working on their man crow.
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connect 4 feet (48 inches) of wire end to end with zip ties, ties can be cut off for storage (flat)
 
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My experience in showing young birds: Cockerels at 4 months old, are in the same class as birds that are 9, 10, & 11 months old. There is BIG difference in feather development, and chest development between those two ages, and unless its a very small class, or your show offers special "chick" classes, the very young birds are often overshadowed by their older counterparts within that class. It is also possible that they young birds will not meet the weight minimums, if those apply at the shows.

But if you are just looking for a fun, interesting opportunity, then by all means, go for it! You can get a lot of info, and an honest critique of your birds.
 
Thanks, That helps a lot! I hate to enter them if they will be over looked but again it is nice to get other peoples opinions on them and it gives me the guts to keep going and not give up.
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My experience in showing young birds: Cockerels at 4 months old, are in the same class as birds that are 9, 10, & 11 months old. There is BIG difference in feather development, and chest development between those two ages, and unless its a very small class, or your show offers special "chick" classes, the very young birds are often overshadowed by their older counterparts within that class. It is also possible that they young birds will not meet the weight minimums, if those apply at the shows.

But if you are just looking for a fun, interesting opportunity, then by all means, go for it! You can get a lot of info, and an honest critique of your birds.
 
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Oh by no means give up!! If nothing else, a show now, and a show again 6 months from now will tell you how your birds are improving with age, and what parts of your breeding program need the most work- type, feather quality, wing carriage, etc.

I have some cockerels that I'd like to show in November, they will barely be 4 months old, so I'll have to make that call at the last minute. And while I know they wouldn't stand a chance in the open show, I'm anxious to get a judges opinion of them. They will be my first "homegrown" entries.
 
Im kinda where you are with that. Mine a frizzle though so I wanted an idea on them. Seems people see them bigger than a 4 month smooth and at the last state fair I did good with 4 month frizzles but again you never know. They change and depends on the judge too. Thanks again!
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Oh by no means give up!! If nothing else, a show now, and a show again 6 months from now will tell you how your birds are improving with age, and what parts of your breeding program need the most work- type, feather quality, wing carriage, etc.

I have some cockerels that I'd like to show in November, they will barely be 4 months old, so I'll have to make that call at the last minute. And while I know they wouldn't stand a chance in the open show, I'm anxious to get a judges opinion of them. They will be my first "homegrown" entries.
 
Ok i'm going to try and help you with the cage building . here we go . my big cage is 16 feet long 8 cages they are 24 wide 34 depth and 31 tall on the high side . they are built out of OSB board 2 by 2 and 1 by 4 . i only use wire on the doors and the two ends everything else is soild wall so i have no fights and its warmer in the winter . a few of them have egg box's on the back for the broodies and chicks these are my breeding pens . and i just built a 8 foot long cage for my boys this will be the roo cave ! lol . same thing just shorter .
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g] ok if you need anything else just let me know i 'll be here and good luck it only took two days to build the big one and a day for the smaller one .
 

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