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[troyer]

I breed bantams and largefowl, with feed prices going up it's pretty easy to consider mostly breeding bantams.

 

[Amer]

There is a devastating decrease in turkeys shown between 2021 and 2022. In 2021, there were 339. In 2022, only 53. Unlike the 189 shown in 2021, there were 34 guineas. Noooo… not my turkeys!
Ok, now for the rarest, since that was requested last year.
So, sadly, no Canada geese shown.
Steinbachers are down from 2021 when 21 were reported. In 2022 there were only 16 shown. However, I predict an increase because hundreds of people saw how beautiful and interesting they are at the Ohio National and I have already seen people asking for them. I expect once they take off in the Upper Midwest they will become as popular as the other medium geese (aside from Sebbies.)
Cotton Patch are the rarest, at 2. The second rarest Standard goose breed is Egyptians at 43. But they also are non domestic.
It is sad to me that Canadas, Egyptians, Steinbachers, and Saddleback Pomeranians are the least popular geese because them along with Chinese (which are common) are the prettiest geese in my eyes.
The thiccc geese get all the love. I love the little geese.
Someday, I want to get Canadas and cackling and Chinese, maybe even Red-breasted geese.

 

[troyer]

There is a devastating decrease in turkeys shown between 2021 and 2022. In 2021, there were 339. In 2022, only 53. Unlike the 189 shown in 2021, there were 34 guineas. Noooo… not my turkeys!
Ok, now for the rarest, since that was requested last year.
So, sadly, no Canada geese shown.
Steinbachers are down from 2021 when 21 were reported. In 2022 there were only 16 shown. However, I predict an increase because hundreds of people saw how beautiful and interesting they are at the Ohio National and I have already seen people asking for them. I expect once they take off in the Upper Midwest they will become as popular as the other medium geese (aside from Sebbies.)
Cotton Patch are the rarest, at 2. The second rarest Standard goose breed is Egyptians at 43. But they also are non domestic.
It is sad to me that Canadas, Egyptians, Steinbachers, and Saddleback Pomeranians are the least popular geese because them along with Chinese (which are common) are the prettiest geese in my eyes.
The thiccc geese get all the love. I love the little geese.
Someday, I want to get Canadas and cackling and Chinese, maybe even Red-breasted geese.

Do breeders need a wildlife permit to keep Canada geese? If they do, that might be part of the hassle of keeping them.

 

[Amer]

I breed bantams and largefowl, with feed prices going up it's pretty easy to consider mostly breeding bantams.

Yeah, I’ll admit, I only like keeping bantams, even though I often admire the LF counterparts more at shows (with the exception of true bantams). All the fun in less of the space. If I could have bantam turkeys and bantam geese, I would.
Someday, I do want Beltsville Small Whites and the smallish geese I mentioned.
But I’d also like to breed small turkeys in other colors. And Franconian geese would be lovely if they existed here (Czech geese, too.)
I also like my pigeons on the small or medium side. Even medium pigeons are smaller than my bantams though, since pigeons are small to begin with.

 

[Amer]

Do breeders need a wildlife permit to keep Canada geese? If they do, that might be part of the hassle of keeping them.

Not to keep them (all they need to keep them is a sheet from the licensed breeder) but to sell them. But it is actually very easy to get.
One of the issues is the subspecies that the APA recognizes is the “Common” or “Eastern.” That is the type I see in the Midwest. It is apparently so common that none of the exotic keepers want it and they usually have duskies or Giants. So it is actually one of the rare varieties in captivity.
A shame, though, because I think the “Common” ones are the most beautiful.

 

[troyer]

Not to keep them (all they need to keep them is a sheet from the licensed breeder) but to sell them. But it is actually very easy to get.
One of the issues is the subspecies that the APA recognizes is the “Common” or “Eastern.” That is the type I see in the Midwest. It is apparently so common that none of the exotic keepers want it and they usually have duskies or Giants. So it is actually one of the rare varieties in captivity.
A shame, though, because I think the “Common” ones are the most beautiful.

Are the Common ones the same as the wild ones?

 

[Amer]

Ok, so rarest ducks: Australian spotted and Dutch Hookbills both only have 2. But neither are recognized.
Mandarins only have 3 but they are only ABA recognized.
Anconas have 10, but they are also not recognized.
Silver Appleyards are the rarest APA recognized duck at 29. (Maybe because they are sorta boring?) No offense.
None of the other duck breeds are suffering at all. One benefit to having so few recognized is that it means odd duck people can have them all. Again, no offense, I admire your effort.

 

[Amer]

Are the Common ones the same as the wild ones?

So apparently Eastern and “Common” isn’t actually commonly used by ornithologists, just the APA. It is my understanding that this is the “Atlantic” Canada goose, which is the nominate subspecies, Branta canadensis canadensis. Not too big, nice contrast between neck and belly. Also what is around Wisconsin and familiarity makes me fond of it. https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/361870-Branta-canadensis-canadensis
Western https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/338990-Branta-canadensis-moffitti
Dusky
https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/236949-Branta-canadensis-occidentalis
Giant
https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/358351-Branta-canadensis-maxima
Lesser
https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/236950-Branta-canadensis-parvipes

 

[troyer]

We have three sizes during the migration times, but they're usually all mixed together.
During breeding season there's two sizes, jumbo and regular and they seem to interbreed. It can be either sex as a breeding pair.
I've never seen a dusky around here.

 

[Amer]

Rarest large fowl chickens are Rhode Island White at 2 and Orloff at 3. Rarest bantams are Marans and Minorcas at 1 of each. Also, apparently 3 Aseel bantams were exhibited even though I wasn’t aware of those existing. Same with the 60 Jersey Giants.
But I am not interested in seeing those. All I want to see are the Redcaps because then I can say I have seen every recognized breed!