Another puppy question.. *short video clips on page 2* Advice?

[Hound]

The whole giving-the-bone-to-the-puppy thing.... all I can say is don't LOL You're telling the adults they're not higher up in the pack than the puppy, and sooner or later they'll feel the need to defend their position. You're giving them reason to worry that their bones and treats will be taken away from them. Let them sort it out amongst themselves within reason (obviously don't leave them all together unattended until you're sure they're ok). I'd put anything 'valuable' (ie likely to cause a fight) away for the first few days.

Adult dogs usually are grouchy with new puppies for a while, it's just their way of establishing the pecking order. If they were friendly and licking a new puppy they would essentially be handing over all control to the new guy. The pack hierarchy of our dogs is very apparent when someone new comes along; the lowest will be friendly and playful, and willing to share their beds from day one. The two alphas will not acknowledge a puppy for a week or two, and will reprimand it if it touches them. It soon settles down.

 

[redhen]

Whew! Thanks! I feel better now!

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So i guess the little guy is asking for it then by romping at them and going after their bones?

Go figure..i can pick them..

 

[redhen]

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Hi! Thanks for the advice! He can hear.. he sometimes does look at me when i call his name or make a noise to him...
But the other day i wa standing above him and he didnt seem to know i was there so i clapped ... and he still didnt respond... (but hes still young yet..)
so.. it did get me wondering how good his hearing is...
Interesting that you mention hearing with him...
Its something that i will def keep a close eye on with him and see what happens. THanks!

 

[Wolfwoman]

Normal, normal, normal. Just like a mom telling a kid the SHUT THE Heck UP after hearing MOMMY for the upteenth bazillion time. I've had sires whack a pup so hard they yelp/scream and then go jump on mom and yank her ears

Some learn more slowly than others, some need harder whacks, some need none... but they will learn. Your adults are fine

 

[Hound]

We have a little family group, momma, daddy and their 14 week old puppy. From day one daddy hasn't wanted anything to do with her. Momma thinks she's the best thing since sliced bread and won't leave her alone, she constantly wants to play. Momma is pretty high up in the pecking order here, but she'd let the puppies get away with anything and never growled at them. Now she's finally realised the monster she has created and is trying to regain ground!

 

[redhen]

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LOL.. i know a lot of parents like that!

 

[redhen]

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Thanks!

 

[welsummerchicks]

Totally normal now, anyone's guess if it is going to stay that way or not. Opinions will vary, and everyone will have one.

Me? In my house, ain't nobody barks at nobody for walking by a dog with a bone unless it's me. That's MY JOB.

From the mildest woof on up. Nobody but me. And as long as it stays that way, no puppies get eaten. Or bitten. Or their patellar ligaments detached and them needing three thousand dollar surgery on one leg, and the other leg in four weeks.

You ever see what the top dog does when two dogs start to bark, woof, play, fight or do ANYTHING in her pack? She comes over like a flash, and holds one of them down by the neck til they scream bloody murden, then she lets the dog up. And they don't woof, or fight, or bark any more.

Further, I don't give adult dogs bones and chew toys and then let the puppy loose to wander up to them. If they want something to chew on they can do it in their crate, or on the other side of a baby gate from the puppy. Because the phone might ring or someone might fall off the swing, and I might not get to run over and hold someone down by the neck til they scream bloody murder, quite in time.

When you put big dogs down with food and let the little dogs come up to them, maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but one of these days, you're going to have some expensive vet bills or a crippled or dead dog on your hands. Even worse, you will have grudge matches that will play out for the next umpteen years every time you need them NOT to play out, like when the two dogs are standing on either side of a guest, and the guest gets bit.

When you mix unrelated dogs of different sizes and ages, you create an unnatural situation. Dogs are predators, and they act like it, and they act MORE like it when big dogs are mixed with little dogs. Even your big baby doll who you love and has 'never done anything like that before'. Respect nature.

 

[redhen]

So your saying that you cant let your dogs chew a bone in the same room together...? They have to be crated? Thats not good for me. I dont want to have to live that way..
I dont do that here.. my adult dogs havent had crates since they were pups. No room in my house for 2 HUGE crates for saint bernards....plus they dont need them here. They dont chew on things..or trample strangers or run out the door... they listen very well.
My adults have no fights over food or toys or bones..nothing. And they wernt even pups together..one is a year older.
I respect nature..but the pup has to learn his place in the pack..that wont happen if i have to crate my adults to eat a bone.
Isnt it natural for a pup to be in a dog pack? How does that work?

But yes..i hear what you are saying... it CAN be a dangerous situation sometimes... thats why i made this thread. But i also know that adults dont usually "attack" pups... they just teach them their place int he pack...
I posted to videos to be SURE thats whats going on and not something worse. I figured the dog gurus could tell by Dukes posture what he was doing with the pup... I wanted others opinions on if hes just doing what adults do to pups naturally... or if he really wants to go after the pup.
I'm still not exactly sure whats going on with him... but i'll be on high alert when hes with them...thats about all i can do right now.

 

[Sir Birdaholic]

Don't change Dukes life to fit the puppy, Duke will teach it the rules. If he was going to eat the pup, he'd have done it by now. Duke may even get the pup pinned to the floor, biting him, but I'll bet it's not hard biting. It'll be Duke letting the pup feel his teeth, without wounding the pup. It's part of pack teaching & learning. CUTE PUP!