I haven’t yet apparently you can’t buy antibiotics at farm stores around here starting December first so a lot of them have already stopped ordering and when they run out that’s it. I have been in touch with a few vets so fingers crossed one will help me out. I also learned that the agricultural college somewhat nearby does fecal samples so I’m going to do that tomorrow! Hopefully that will help is zero in on the issue The seeds had been in a cup and they spilled them through the night I guess. I promptly cleaned the area this morning and took them away. I agree with you that we should just be sticking with the feed... my partner on the other hand is harder to convince and thinks they need the protein/roughage. I’ll fight that battle again tonight. Lol We had been giving them a bit of our home grown watermelon as it seems that’s all the barred rock will eat and then we know she is getting fluid... we noticed last night sometimes she spit up some of the water (it was clear) but mostly seemed to happen if she kept a her head down and ate a lot. I will try to wet their lay mash to see if that’s more appetizing to her. We actually just started adding grit to this most recent bag of food... so they have probably had grit mixed in with Their lay mash for about 4 weeks. It was mixed in before the symptoms started but maybe I’ll give them another little dish of it to be sure. Thank you so much for all your suggestions they have been very helpful!!