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[SnapdragonQ]

I get it!! I was diagnosed with Stage 4 kidney disease in January of 2020. That news hit me like a ton of bricks…it came out of nowhere. The scariest part was that just a few years before, I had lost my beloved sister Linda after she’d been on dialysis for 4 years. Now, her situation was different….she’d had emergency surgery for a ruptured abdominal aortic aneurysm and while they were able to repair that, the surgery threw an embolism shower into her kidneys and they died, quite literally overnight. Christmas Day she had kidneys, the day after Christmas she didn’t. My kidney disease was a slow, insidious disease process that I didn’t even suspect. The intelligent, adult side of me recognized the difference, but the emotional side of me was still bleeding from the heart at losing Linda, and terrified. I don’t have Linda’s strength and courage, and I couldn’t face the instant and awful lifestyle changes she faced with the dignity and grace that she had.

Suddenly I had to research and read everything I could find. Like Linda, I also have heart disease, so I have to find a way to balance my cardio diet with my kidney diet. The two often conflict, making that balance hard to find. So I talked it to death. I even started a thread here, hoping to get and share ideas with others. I‘d had a little practice - when we’d go back to visit Linda as often as we could, I’d take her grocery shopping. When she wasn’t up to it, I shopped for her myself. I fixed meals that she could eat and that she could enjoy. Her diet was much more rigid than mine, of course, because while I have some kidney function she had absolutely none. While my heart disease has been treated with a few stents and medications, she required a triple bypass just two years after her aneurism. But the basics are the same.

So you go right ahead and keep posting. Sometimes solution or ideas hit you even as you type. Ever had that happen? You’re helping others understand the limitations posed by gluten sensitivity and Celiac. Sharing is caring!

I dont know whether to laugh, hug you, or cry with you. You get me.

I'm so sorry for your loss, and all you are dealing with on your own health issues.

And I get it. Kiddo was a preemie with health problems from moment one. Every time the Peds handed down some new scary diagnoses (there are still whole lot more than diet issues) I struggled, then threw myself into the research and learning process.

Yep, brainstorming and typing (or talking) things out makes me think of new things, ideas, or solutions.

 

[pennyJo1960]

Made chilie profile this morning very thick added water will have to cook the beans more ..
Cornbread is going to go with it ...

 

[ronott1]

My older GF sourdough starter is on day three.
Yesterday afternoon and evening it smelled pleasant and yeasty, like rising bread dough. This morning it had a bit of tang to it. When I stirred it I could see and feel how the elasticity of it was changing a little and there were possibly some teeny tiny bubbles.

This evening it is smelling a little sharp. No mold, not icky, just that it went from tangy to a little sharp. Is this normal?

Sounds good!

You can make pancakes with it now. In a week or so, some bread recipes.

 

[ronott1]

Couple of questions. And I am not trying to upset any purists, merely trying to gain a broader understanding.

If a person (Not me) were to make a cheater sourdough, ie: flour, water, packet of yeast, let sit a few days, etc.... with baking from it weekly, how long might it take for the wild yeast to move in and set up shop?
Will wild yeast move in and will they make it a home?

Is the cheater method a yeast culture? And what is the difference between a yeast culture, and a sponge?

I think I am understanding what a mature sourdough starter is, and why they take on more flavor as they age. But I am seeing many gluten free sourdough recipes that still call for some addition of regular yeasts. Why?
(besides the fact that GF breads tend to be flat)

It is a yeast culture. It will likely not be sour but you could make it sour by adding ascorbic acid to it.

Using wild yeast results in a longer rise to baking and that adds the sourdough texture to the bread.

making GF bread might work better this way for you. Try both ways!

 

[Sally PB]

But I am seeing many gluten free sourdough recipes that still call for some addition of regular yeasts. Why?
(besides the fact that GF breads tend to be flat)

I *think* it's just for that reason. Since there is no stretchy elastic gluten, straight GF sourdough doesn't rise much. At least mine didn't, anyway. The next time I make GF sourdough, I might add a 1/2 teaspoon of yeast, to see if it gets a bit poofier.

I will say, though, I've done it the other way around, and added 1/2 cup sourdough starter to my machine GF yeast bread. I think it's an improvement! A bit more flavor, and a bit more rise. More holes in it, anyway, so not quite so dense.

 

[MotherofOrpies]

I *think* it's just for that reason. Since there is no stretchy elastic gluten, straight GF sourdough doesn't rise much. At least mine didn't, anyway. The next time I make GF sourdough, I might add a 1/2 teaspoon of yeast, to see if it gets a bit poofier.

I will say, though, I've done it the other way around, and added 1/2 cup sourdough starter to my machine GF yeast bread. I think it's an improvement! A bit more flavor, and a bit more rise. More holes in it, anyway, so not quite so dense.

The usual recipies with sourdough often call for extra yeast, the thing is, when your sourdough is new, it isn’t as active, so you need to add extra yeast , the older it gets, the better, I have “year” old sourdough which doesn’t need extra yeast! And if you are not satisfied with it, you can refresh ist every day for a few days, that will really get it going I also use freshly milled rye, which also gives it more action, the flour you buy at the store is usually a few months old. No active enzymes in there any more

 

[MotherofOrpies]

I get it!! I was diagnosed with Stage 4 kidney disease in January of 2020. That news hit me like a ton of bricks…it came out of nowhere. The scariest part was that just a few years before, I had lost my beloved sister Linda after she’d been on dialysis for 4 years. Now, her situation was different….she’d had emergency surgery for a ruptured abdominal aortic aneurysm and while they were able to repair that, the surgery threw an embolism shower into her kidneys and they died, quite literally overnight. Christmas Day she had kidneys, the day after Christmas she didn’t. My kidney disease was a slow, insidious disease process that I didn’t even suspect. The intelligent, adult side of me recognized the difference, but the emotional side of me was still bleeding from the heart at losing Linda, and terrified. I don’t have Linda’s strength and courage, and I couldn’t face the instant and awful lifestyle changes she faced with the dignity and grace that she had.

Suddenly I had to research and read everything I could find. Like Linda, I also have heart disease, so I have to find a way to balance my cardio diet with my kidney diet. The two often conflict, making that balance hard to find. So I talked it to death. I even started a thread here, hoping to get and share ideas with others. I‘d had a little practice - when we’d go back to visit Linda as often as we could, I’d take her grocery shopping. When she wasn’t up to it, I shopped for her myself. I fixed meals that she could eat and that she could enjoy. Her diet was much more rigid than mine, of course, because while I have some kidney function she had absolutely none. While my heart disease has been treated with a few stents and medications, she required a triple bypass just two years after her aneurism. But the basics are the same.

So you go right ahead and keep posting. Sometimes solution or ideas hit you even as you type. Ever had that happen? You’re helping others understand the limitations posed by gluten sensitivity and Celiac. Sharing is caring!

So sorry to hear this I am a nurse and know what you are talking about …if possible, low impact exercise can strengthen your heart, the main thing is to get active, just walking will improve the heart condition, a friend of mine had a massive heart attack, and started walking ( at first, just a little bit) she has joined a hiking group and when she went to her cardiologist after a few years, he couldn’t believe how much better her heart was doing! I also have a minor heart condition with extra heart beats ( aortic valve problems) ever since I got my energetic dog, it’s gotten so much better, my EKG no longer shows any extra beats, so hang in there.
So sorry for your loss !! I have an older sister and cannot imagine losing her, and in your case, way before her time I am sure the renal specialist has told you to drink lots of fluids? And also, how bad packaged stuff is for you? In the dialysis center, patients were told to take out the cheese and sausage from their package and put it into a container. Tupper is only safe, when it isn’t washed by a dishwasher, something about the detergent leaches out bad chemicals. As long as you wash them by hand, you are safe. If you have put them in the dishwasher, I would suggest getting new ones and only washing them by hand, or use ceramic, glass or stainless steel containers, they can be put in the dishwasher safely. Take care and best wishes!

 

[Blooie]

Thank you so much! Linda was 2 years younger than me. Those here who know me know how hard I took her death. Cherish that older sister….I often say we learn more about being decent people from our siblings than we do from even the most loving parents. I am blessed to still have 2 younger sisters and a younger brother.

I’m 71 but not a sedentary person by any means. I maintain an active lifestyle, I get out (a lot!), and nothing makes me happier than spending time with my grandkids. Heart disease is rampant in our family. My mother was one of the first women in the country to have triple bypass surgery….they’d been doing them on men but very few women. Her surgery was done by Dr. Lilihi (and I always seem to spell his name wrong) at the University of Minnesota. She survived long enough to have a valve replaced and a second bypass done 8 years after her first, at a time when the most a bypass promised was an additional 5 years or so. But we lost her to congestive heart failure when she was just 58 years old. So I take pretty good care of myself. In fact, I have lived longer than any single member of my extended family. Not one of Ma’s siblings lived much past 39 years old. My biological father died of leukemia when I was 4 years old. I’m still learning the kidney disease, but I have a superb support system.

I had never heard anything about washing plastic containers, and I accompanied Linda to many of her appointments and dialysis sessions at the DaVita Center. That’s interesting. But obviously that could have been discussed when I wasn’t there. Regardless, it didn’t stop Linda from using plastic containers and washing them in the dishwasher, and she was usually pretty fastidious about following instructions. I have all glass leftover containers anyway.

I’m a tough old bird, as folks here can attest, and have no intention of going anywhere. I’m so glad you chimed in!!

 

[MotherofOrpies]

Thank you so much! Linda was 2 years younger than me. Those here who know me know how hard I took her death. Cherish that older sister….I often say we learn more about being decent people from our siblings than we do from even the most loving parents. I am blessed to still have 2 younger sisters and a younger brother.

I’m 71 but not a sedentary person by any means. I maintain an active lifestyle, I get out (a lot!), and nothing makes me happier than spending time with my grandkids. Heart disease is rampant in our family. My mother was one of the first women in the country to have triple bypass surgery….they’d been doing them on men but very few women. Her surgery was done by Dr. Lilihi (and I always seem to spell his name wrong) at the University of Minnesota. She survived long enough to have a valve replaced and a second bypass done 8 years after her first, at a time when the most a bypass promised was an additional 5 years or so. But we lost her to congestive heart failure when she was just 58 years old. So I take pretty good care of myself. In fact, I have lived longer than any single member of my extended family. Not one of Ma’s siblings lived much past 39 years old. My biological father died of leukemia when I was 4 years old. I’m still learning the kidney disease, but I have a superb support system.

I had never heard anything about washing plastic containers, and I accompanied Linda to many of her appointments and dialysis sessions at the DaVita Center. That’s interesting. But obviously that could have been discussed when I wasn’t there. Regardless, it didn’t stop Linda from using plastic containers and washing them in the dishwasher, and she was usually pretty fastidious about following instructions. I have all glass leftover containers anyway.

I’m a tough old bird, as folks here can attest, and have no intention of going anywhere. I’m so glad you chimed in!!

I am very sure about the plastic container stuff, we always told dialysis patients! On the fly Containers made of polystyrene (PS, or plastic #6, also known as Styrofoam) can also be dangerous, as its base component, styrene, has been associated with skin, eye and respiratory irritation, depression, fatigue, compromised kidney function, and central nervous system damage. Take-out restaurant orders often come in polystyrene containers, which also should be emptied into safer containers once you get them home.
Also a short info here
Vintage Tupperware may contain lead and arsenic, which can cause health risks such as high blood pressure, nervous system brain damage, bone poisoning, kidney failure, and poisoning of teeth. Similarly, arsenic is linked to causing diabetes, cancer, lung disease, heart, and vascular diseases.
Another info

• Not putting plastic containers in the dishwasher, where the heat may cause chemicals to leach out onto other dishes

You have had a lot of heartache, I feel for you! My mother passed a way 1 week after her 62. birthday, she had breast cancer and they found out about it 4 weeks before her death… my father died when he was 73, they found him after 4 days … cancer is also rampant in my family ( I am adopted, so, in my adoptive family) my fathers sister died at 38 of pancreatic cancer, back then, there wasn’t much you could do, she died at her mothers place, screaming months cos she was that much in pain. It really did a number on my father, after that, he feared he had cancer for the rest of his life my mothers cousin also died at 58 , from breast cancer, I am very worried about my sister, there are “related” cancer types, and pancreatic and breast cancer belong to the same “group”, so she has bad genes from both sides of her family …

 

[Ladies-Eight]

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You are exactly right.

Sometimes that is the way some people "get it".