Anybody lose their unemployment yesterday?

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I agree with most of what you say here with one exception - we cannot put tariffs into place as our primary means of income. The more we tariff other countries the more they will tariff us. Much of this currency war started due to protectionism in other countries that we forced to accept our goods. Now the shoe is on the other foot and we are reaping what we sowed.

"Anti-business" has to be one of the most over-used misunderstood word right now (with perhaps the exception of the word socialism) People keep conflating the small businesses of 100 or fewer people who are the backbone of our economy with mega corps that have become global parasites with no national boundaries or loyalties whatsoever.

The mega corps are spending HUGE money trying to convince people that anything that helps the middle class or protects workers is anti-business. Henry Ford proved this wrong (and he was a bigoted SOB) He knew that workers who cannot afford his products cannot become customers. The other business owners hated him at first because he paid "too much".

The guy you want to hate is not Ronald Reagan its Milton Friedman. He won the dynamite economics award by economists for doing the most damage to our economy yet he IS STILL TAUGHT. He held a strict version of neo-liberal economics that was social darwinism at its worst. He is the progenitor of trickle down economics. Reagan was not bright enough to design economic systems.

I agree with everything. I like your term mega corporations. Just using corporations as I have done is wrong.

Ronald Reagan was a true figurehead much as George Bush was. Much like one of those dolls a ventriloquist uses. The big difference was that he was an actor by trade and could remember what he was told to say. Bush on the other hand required 6 years of training before he could deliver a comprehend able message. I only blame Reagan for doing such a good job of convincing some Americans that trickle down economics was anything more than a warm flow of you know what.

Those Mega Corporations are doing a fantastic job. They just got a bunch of their lap dogs in place so they can soak up an even bigger piece of the pie. The whole TP movement was financed by a Mega Millionaire that wants more money going his way. The level of manipulation is scary. It is a very well coordinated effort. I hope there are some people in the movement besides the supporters that have good intentions.

I have WHAT in my yard? :

Yeah, the citizen's United ruling was pretty much the death knell for democracy in this country. And I truly mean that. We have had our problems in the past - the civil war and the 60s come to mind, but in each case there was a free people who could speak their minds.

Now the golden rule is in effect - he who has the gold - rules. They know so much about how to manipulate people now. Edward Bernays is the progenitor of the modern advertising industry. (They called it propaganda before Hitler made that a bad word) Now they study is in minutia, including key stroke catchers on the internet, until they know us better than we know ourselves and think that they can make better decisions for us than we can so they convince us of what they want us to know. Make us feel what they want us to feel.

In decades gone by this was done as well - WWII was huge on this one. But, then nationalism generally made it so that most people were aiming at what was best for the country (at least in their opinion) now they simply do not care. One country is the same as another.

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Been there, done that. We had to short-sell a house when we both went on Unemployment which ran out last August. But we were more fortunate than most, because of good "what-if" planning a long time ago. Those that lived from paycheck to paycheck, and allowed themselves to have no plan B are hurting. It may seem unfeeling, even cruel, but most Americans are reaping from what they sowed.

We were taught as 20 somethings to take out huge student loans, mortgages, car loans, credit cards, and it would all be OK because we were young and had years and years to pay. WRONG! None of us are guaranteed employment tomorrow. We can only pray that the 20 somethings of today are learning the value of preparing for the worst, while living with less until it can be paid for...in cash.

As someone earlier said, debt-free is the way to live...if you can. I've done both, and really would have to think REAL hard before taking another mortgage, car loan or credit card. If you owe money on it....it is not yours. The bank owns it.

Housing?....if you don't have a rich Uncle or cash to buy it...rent.
Cars?...ever hear of Craigslist.org? Or public transportation?
Food?...We grow ours...ie, the name of the forum.
Clothing?...most churches have free clothing banks...if you are willing to be seen in last year's style.
Healthcare?...Isn't that what Mr. Obama is working on..(forgive my sarcasm) Yes, healthcare can be a financial problem.
Anything beyond these is luxury...nice but not essential.

Running out of Unemployment is a PAIN. And that is a four-letter word. But if they keep extending it indefinitely, it ceases to be a help, and becomes just another way for one to live out of another's pocket. At what point do you stop? I now live on chicken feed. That is, what the chicken feed produces. And I thank my maker for those birds. Don't you?
 
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We were taught as 20 somethings to take out huge student loans, mortgages, car loans, credit cards, and it would all be OK because we were young and had years and years to pay. WRONG! None of us are guaranteed employment tomorrow. We can only pray that the 20 somethings of today are learning the value of preparing for the worst, while living with less until it can be paid for...in cash.

I have talked to many of them and some have indeed learned this lesson.

HOWEVER, others have learned something else entirely.

Those who saved and lived within their means lost everything. Those who scrupulously did without to save for their retirements now find their pensions gone and their IRAs halved.

Those who lived high on the hog may have filed for bankruptcy and/or lost their houses, but they got to keep all the cool toys and fancy cars.
Those who stole and cheated not only got clean away with it, but many got richer.

This was pointed out to me by one of my classes. They said to me, "What lesson would you like us to take from this?"​
 
I have WHAT in my yard? :

A Rose for Heaven said:
We were taught as 20 somethings to take out huge student loans, mortgages, car loans, credit cards, and it would all be OK because we were young and had years and years to pay. WRONG! None of us are guaranteed employment tomorrow. We can only pray that the 20 somethings of today are learning the value of preparing for the worst, while living with less until it can be paid for...in cash.

I have talked to many of them and some have indeed learned this lesson.

HOWEVER, others have learned something else entirely.

Those who saved and lived within their means lost everything. Those who scrupulously did without to save for their retirements now find their pensions gone and their IRAs halved.

Those who lived high on the hog may have filed for bankruptcy and/or lost their houses, but they got to keep all the cool toys and fancy cars.
Those who stole and cheated not only got clean away with it, but many got richer.

This was pointed out to me by one of my classes. They said to me, "What lesson would you like us to take from this?"​

Amen!​
 
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Agree , and yes I really do feel bad for those who lost their jobs. How long can we keep extending , 99 weeks I think has been long enought.

My pay has been cut in half, but I payed off everything , by working 60 to 80 hrs a week.

Now a big part of my income goes to pay taxes...for our goverment to waste. Like cash for clunkers, I would never spend my money on cars made overseas...but they used my tax dollar for this, which most when to oversea car companies..
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Survival mode again...y'all make room on the boat for me and mine. DH just got laid off again. Back to square..whatever square I can find to get on
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LOL! This SUCKS! Just called the last place I worked...nothing available *sigh*
 
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just wanted to add that for any adventurous women out there, because of equal opportunity and quotas , women usually get shoved to the front of the list. It's a tough job but there are linewomen out there
 
Today's lesson: driving the 24 year old truck does you no good if you can't afford to insure it.

Back to bumming rides, I guess.
 
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Thanks. You know how the construction industry is
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I want to slap the crap outta his boss
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If OSHA only knew.....
 
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