Anyone non-religious here? Please be nice!

[SunnyDawn]

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Ditto! They are very impressionable at this age. A great book explaining things in a simple, fun format is a wonderful idea!
I would absolutely have an issue with a teacher explaining weather phenomena as an act of any diety! She is there to teach and while I wouldn't expect a detailed lesson in meteorology she can certainly be a little more "elementary school teacher" and a little less "good little sunday school teacher". She is being paid by the state not the church!

 

[SunnyDawn]

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Thank you for starting it!!!

 

[eastbaychicks]

I have WHAT in my yard? :

Eastbaychicks - I am so sorry for you and the pain you and your DH are experiencing. You do sound quite depressed so I hope you make good on your plan to see a counselor.

I was getting pretty bad so I decided I should really move myself to action so I called and went today. It was a good experience. The doc gave me some meds to help with the down feelings. Plus I haven't been able to sleep (which is why I was talking to you East Coast gals, I was up all night last night.... DH is out of town). I think I'll bring it up with the DH in a little while and talk about the commitment clarification when we have a full day to discuss and we're in a relaxing atmosphere since this is causing so much stress for me anyway. I need to do more homework and develop my opinions a little better.

As a side note, when I was getting my meds from my Doc not the therapist he told me that he had been going to the Mormon church for 30 years and that he would never join, he just likes going. I was shocked. His wife is devout, and he's supporting her and that is the sweetest thing. I have always loved him as a Doc, but now I know he's a good man too. You really don't have to be a member of a church to be a good person. I wish people in churches though that about even the members attending the church. The irony in all that has always been beyond my understanding.

All I have to say is thank goodness for your input... I love this kind of moral discussion and support at the same time. You can't talk like this with many people and if any of you lived nearby I'd be having you over for more discussions and dinner.​

 

[SunnyDawn]

Sounds like you are doing exactly what you need to do. Take your time when trying to sort things out. Write down what you'd like to discuss with your hubby when you're alone. Glad to hear of the good visit with the Doc.

Hope you get some sleep tonight!

 

[michickenwrangler]

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Ditto! They are very impressionable at this age. A great book explaining things in a simple, fun format is a wonderful idea!
I would absolutely have an issue with a teacher explaining weather phenomena as an act of any diety! She is there to teach and while I wouldn't expect a detailed lesson in meteorology she can certainly be a little more "elementary school teacher" and a little less "good little sunday school teacher". She is being paid by the state not the church!

I've explained a little to her about weather, mostly explaining about the lake effect stuff we get here in MI.

This teacher also wants to hold our daughter back, saying she's not mature enough to go onto 1st grade (another long story that I won't go into here) but, yeesh, if you're explaing weather as "God controls it" I'm surprised that ANY of these students are mature enough to go on. DD's b-day is in Sept. so she's one of the younger kids in Kindergarten. Teacher says the curriculum is designed for 7 yr olds ... that apparently say that God controls the weather

 

[deb1]

Homeschooling in the early years is a lot of fun but it is hard to find secular material. Maybe you could homeschool for the next few years?

 

[mom'sfolly]

I just found another reason to be grateful that I'm not religious. No one expects me to submit to the dominion of my husband.

I see marriage as a partnership. Sometimes one personality is more dominant than the other but that is okay. Marriage, in my mind, is about mutual love and support. Sometimes one person needs more than the other, and it is the spouses job to give the other what they need. We don't ask each other permission to do things, but we do consult. I never would have gotten chickens if my husband was adamantly against it; because it wouldn't have been fair to make him unhappy. We make long term choices as a couple, for the good of us both and of our children. We even discuss what we would hope would happen between us if the unthinkable happened and we were to divorce. I can't imagine how a marriage would function if I allowed myself to be ruled by his choices alone. I think I would end up resentful, unhappy and miserable, and in the end alone.

 

[Up-the-Creek]

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My DD is in kindergarten also and we are in a rural area and I am dealing with the same situation. She comes home telling me "God does this, God does that." I want my children to make their own decisions about religion, and I don't want them spoon fed this kind of stuff. Being that it is a public school, are they supposed to be able to do this??? I thought religion in public school was a no,no. How would you all handle it? It kind of shocked me for her to tell me her teacher was telling her this stuff,....

 

[deb1]

mom'sfolly :

I just found another reason to be grateful that I'm not religious. No one expects me to submit to the dominion of my husband.

I see marriage as a partnership. Sometimes one personality is more dominant than the other but that is okay. Marriage, in my mind, is about mutual love and support. Sometimes one person needs more than the other, and it is the spouses job to give the other what they need. We don't ask each other permission to do things, but we do consult. I never would have gotten chickens if my husband was adamantly against it; because it wouldn't have been fair to make him unhappy. We make long term choices as a couple, for the good of us both and of our children. We even discuss what we would hope would happen between us if the unthinkable happened and we were to divorce. I can't imagine how a marriage would function if I allowed myself to be ruled by his choices alone. I think I would end up resentful, unhappy and miserable, and in the end alone.

I was thinking of writing the exact same thing, Mom's folly! Because you think like me, you must be a genius.

For about three years I attended a church that was fundamentalists but to an extreme. I went the submissive route and it almost destroyed my marriage. My husband wanted an equal partnership and he hated being stuck in a leadership mode just because of his genitals. My happy marriage almost dissolved. We were both resentful of one another.

People have different strengths. If one person is better at balancing the budget, the person should be in charge of making certain that the bills are paid. If one person is better at managing the house, perhaps that person should be in charge of who does what around the home.​

 

[mom'sfolly]

Public schools are not allowed to say "God does this or that". It is advocating religion, and a clear constitutional violation. I would recommend talking to the vice-principal or principal because the teacher obviously sees nothing wrong with it. In a public school environment is perfectly acceptable for a teacher or a child to say a personal grace over a meal, or a personal prayer. It is not all right to a teacher to pray for a classroom group or to say "God makes the flowers grow". When a teacher or an administrator prays or uses God while teaching it is a clear violation.

This being said, you might have to pick your battles. You may want to request a different kindergarten teacher for your child siting "personal reasons" or "personality" conflicts. This gets your child a new teacher without you coming off as an "anti-Christian nutjob". While this does not address the issues at your school, it does give your child a break from a message you don't approve of, and is illegal coming from school. It also gives you the room to decide if this is something you want to make a stink about. Yes it is clearly a violation, but it may make the school a very hostile environment for you and your child, and set your rural community against you.