Anyone non-religious here? Please be nice!

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This thread is not about who is right and who is wrong. It is a forum for people to discuss their non-religious beliefs.

 

[Prettiest Frog]

A victory for the separation of church and state:

http://www.sacbee.com/2010/04/17/2685285/judge-backs-redding-atheist-who.html

 

[gamebirdsonly]

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Prove to me there is no such thing as the Tooth Fairy, and that there are no unicorns.

I can prove tooth fairy. When I was little it was my mom and for my kids it's my wife.
Now as far as Unicorns I belive they were all killed off thousands years ago

 

[gamebirdsonly]

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Hey I also belive good solid science too. But there is alot of junk science out there that is consider accurate until a few years later the scientest find out they were wrong.

But still where did man recieve his knowledge?

 

[redux]

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Hey I also belive good solid science too. But there is alot of junk science out there that is consider accurate until a few years later the scientest find out they were wrong.

But still where did man recieve his knowledge?

All that matters for purposes of this thread is what you believe. Please do not start a debate.

 

[Sissy]

redux three cheers for you.

 

[michickenwrangler]

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Prove to me there is no such thing as the Tooth Fairy, and that there are no unicorns.

I can prove tooth fairy. When I was little it was my mom and for my kids it's my wife.
Now as far as Unicorns I belive they were all killed off thousands years ago

The Persian unicorn, the karkadann, was described as having the body and head of a horse, feet of an elephant, tufted tail of a lion and a large black horn on its forehead. This describes a rhinoceros species known as elasmotherium almost perfectly. They died off aroud the end of the last Ice Age, 11,000 YA although it is speculated a relic population may have lasted into the early Middle Ages. They lived in Central Asia and Iran/Persia.

 

[SunnyDawn]

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I agree. I love Joseph Campbell. He did a series on PBS that was very enjoyable.

To me it is like common sense,. I have always felt, and this is just my opinion, that people that have the need to have religion in their lives,..has to be weak,..and afraid to face the truth.

I used to be very involved in religion. I don't look back on that time as a weak point in my life, although I know people who do use religion this way, I look at it as part of the learning process. I learned a lot of great things during my time in the church. I didn't want to be like a lot of folks were who left church and became bitter and even more self absorbed (just like the church said they would). Everything we go through is a learning process and to judge all christians or any other beliefs that are different than our own in a harsh way shows (to me) that we all have a bit more learning to do.

People do NOT want to hear that they are no better than everything else on this earth. They WANT to feel entitled and they use religion to help them feel that way. I think humans are perhaps the only ARROGANT species

Not all religious folks feel superior to everything else on the planet. I know that the few groups we were discussing earlier can make it appear that way but the reality (in my experience anyway) is that most of these folks feel insecure about their own value/place in the universe and latch on to religion to help anchor them.
Some attend church for the social aspect alone and this is a valid human need. We are not meant to live in huge cities where we don't know most of our own neighbors. We come from a long history of living in small tribes where we knew everyone we saw on a daily basis and history shows that religion cropped up about the time that we started living in cities. Humans are pack animals and the separation of the "nuclear family" has taken its toll on our psychy. A lot of folks just want to feel like they belong again.


Not sure why this is a problem either. Whatever you believe that brings comfort while living is fine by me. If we cease to exist or think when we die, how would it be sad that these people believed in an afterlife? They are not going to know that what they believed was wrong. They will have no sense of sadness or embarrassment. I'm not sure they are wrong. I think it would be arrogant of me to judge everyone else's beliefs, insisting that I have all the answers and they are all wrong! I also think the term "source" is a valid one. It describes the earth's energy, or life's energy, quite well! It is not a notion that places us above any other species but rather it connects us to all life! Is this belief 100% correct and all other beliefs wrong? I seriously doubt it but if I derive some comfort from feeling connected to the rest of the universe why is this a problem? I tend to believe that there is some truth to many of the concepts that are considered "universal truths" on this planet. Why? Because it comforts me and that is enough for me at this point in my learning process.​

Are you calling me arrogant?? Excuse me?
I'm entitled to my opinion...just as you are... i didnt judge anyone, simply gave my opinion... just as YOU have done in this thread too.
And I stand by what i said...​

I don't think she/he was calling anyone arrogant. I read it as just the opposite. I believe she/he was saying it would be arrogant OF THEM to judge someone else.

Everyone interprets things differently. There is no right or wrong answer. That is the beauty of who we all are as human beings. That is why everyone believes in something different. Whether that person chooses to feel empathy, sadness, anger, and even happiness for another person's beliefs is entirely up to them. They choose to be that way. That is called being human.

Bluemoon

Thank you Bluemoon, that is exactly where I was going with that thought. Had a hard time figuring out how it had offended anyone so much.

 

[gamebirdsonly]

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Hey I also belive good solid science too. But there is alot of junk science out there that is consider accurate until a few years later the scientest find out they were wrong.

But still where did man recieve his knowledge?

All that matters for purposes of this thread is what you believe. Please do not start a debate.

Wasn't trying do debate. Just trying gain more knowledge.

 

[Rusty Hills Farm]

Because some folks view it as science not god.

And some of us believe that science is the process whereby we learn about god. I know I tend to think of religion as being man's opinions about god and science is what we can prove about god.

Rusty​