Anyone Owning A Friesian Please Help Help Help!!!!PICTURES ADDED!!!!

[Chicks_N_Horses]

She is there?!!!

Awesome!

I am sure you will get to enjoy her enough at the other farm. I hate you aren't going to be the one to keep her but at least it is working out better than it started to!

We are waiting on updated pics of this pretty girl!!

 

[Chicken Fruit]

I'll tell you guys what, you all own the wrong horse!

!!!! jk jk jk.

Seriously though, I knew there was a reason I went with friesians. She is such a doll. I've been taking my two year old with me every morning to go visit her. He is in love with her, and she thinks he is probably the funnest thing ever. They play peek-a-boo around me. One behind, one in front of me. lol too cute. I find it fascinating that even at 3 months old she recognizes that my son is smaller and she has to be slower and more respectful- NOT THAT I TRUST HER on any level, but her continence definitely changes when he comes in the stall to see her. Its very interesting to me.

I've been working with her on personal space, manners, and giving her whole body to be touched, even waaaaay under her belly and up and down her back legs, and her tail. No one had worked with her on it, and the lady up there said she struck out at her whenever she's touched her legs. Well she never has with me. She'll lift her back leg if i touch under her belly, but I just push it back down and tell her no. lol. And she looks at me like, "oh, I forgot".

She's literally everything I would have wanted in a foal, so willing to please, so interested, and SO FREAKING SMART! What a little problem solver.

They've been working on her with the lead and walking like a proper lady, and she's been backing for me and walking nicely in the stall. I am pregnant and just cant risk having a 2 year old toddler and a 200+ pound foal on the loose trying to control both. So we stick to the stall for now. I am hoping here soon to work her in the round pen a little, get some good manners going, some join up, and work on desensitizing her.

I havent even had my cell phone on me to get a picture, but iam going to get some new batteries for the camera, and try wacking it a few times- its full of salt from the ocean (we kinda dropped it this summer in the surf) and only works once in a while when it feels like it.

The breeder emailed me to ask how the foal was doing, and if I got her home okay. I never replied to her. As far as I am concerned our business is done. She finally sent in Eowyn's birth certificate and the payment for the registration. I just have to join FHANA so they can send me the DNA kit and stuff, I hope to do that today at some point, get that ball rolling.

THats the update for now- I'll get pictures up eventually. They'd be boring ones right now anyhow, I only see her in her stall. i am so against stalling horses, especially foals, but these people are doing me a favor, and theyre working on getting the fence completed so she can stay out during the day. I hope its done soon, very soon.

 

[BlackBart]

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A quote about GV from a UK horse Judge, Breeder and Trainerbut it is just his opinion

First of all. There is no such breed of horse as a Gypsy Vanner. Indeed those words are rarely, if ever used. And when they are used, its ordinarily by someone new to the horse world and considered to be quite funny.

A gypsy vanner is merely any coloured cob type with feathers. And yes we've got a lot of coloured cobs over here.

Correctly they're always called "coloured" here and no matter what they are. So it might be a "coloured" chestnut and white tobiano Dutch Warmblood or a "coloured" black and white overo Welsh Section D X cob for instance.

And they fall into many categories: From nice Dutch Warmbloods and Welsh D's and oft crossed with Irish Drafts and a mass of decent ones of that ilk and to blooming FUgly low grade grotty things

In the UK there just isn't the desire or market to have anything and everything on a registry. And so until relatively recently all you could register were purebreeds. Then we have some sports horse registries and those are based on inspection of type (based on breed) and performance achievement.

So Gypsy Vanners started out as a joke a bit like a lot of the registries you have over there.

www.illbredpuke.com

www.FUglyhairyhorse.com

www.wtfisthishorse.com

I think the Gypsy Vanner thing just started as a spoof on the silly likes of the above.

The coloured horse was always considered to be "common" over here. They were however prized by traditional Romany communities and there were in fact some very nice ones. And ordinarily of welsh section D type.

Then only a few decades ago we started to see some very nice coloured Dutch Warmbloods come over and those were often crossed with welsh D's in particular to produce really good driving horses. However some were always producing coloured offspring and also (because of the section D) with feathering and they were sought out by the Romany community for their quality and type.

Then some folks who were respected and knowledgeable horse people owned some spectacular DWB's and they were being bred to some exceptional t/b's and the result some VERY good performance sports horses who were being seen on the jumping and eventing circuit. THIS gave rise to the popularity of the coloured horse in the UK.

At this time I had my stud farm and had 2 world famous DWB's belonging to a very important owner and it was these stallions who (by their connections as much as their quality) gave rise to the popularity of quality good coloured horses. Not only were some nice sports horses bred, but also some exceptional high level competition driving horses.

However no different to any breed and/or type, SOME people can't see what they're looking at and with a coloured horse, they can't see past the colour.

I always say that no good horse is a bad colour. But regrettably some folks think a lot of bad horses are good colours. And they can't see past colour.

 

[thewarriorchild]

"I havent even had my cell phone on me to get a picture, but iam going to get some new batteries for the camera, and try wacking it a few times- its full of salt from the ocean (we kinda dropped it this summer in the surf) and only works once in a while when it feels like it."

I am going to run out of popcorn ons ome of these posts!!

 

[Rare Feathers Farm]

So I didn't read ALL of the posts--but have you gotten her DNA back, yet? If you're waiting on the breed registry--it can take FOREVER! I went through a nightmarish ordeal with a Peruvian stud colt I rescued in 2005--the owner wouldn't give me the paperwork or sign anything to get him registered...it was a mess.

Eventually, I sent hairs to UC-Davis in CA for DNA testing to confirm his parentage as 100% Peruvian. It came back that it was and with that in hand and a nice letter with photos of the condition of the horse that I CC'd my attorney and the PPHRNA, I was able to get the proper paperwork to get my guy registered...

A friend of mine from college was sold a "purebred" bay Friesian filly for our colt training class. She paid like $4,000 for a yearling...the previous owners kept making excuses for the lack of papers and finally, upon the suggestion from our trainer, the girl sent in the DNA to UC-Davis and it came back as grade. She was 50% Friesian and 50% quarterhorse!

Just a thought that you could go to UC-Davis to at least confirm she's 100% Friesian...

Thanks!

~Heather~

 

[patandchickens]

Agree about the Vanners, it is a testament to Yankee ingenuity in marketing that you can buy a horse for the equivalent of $1000 and ship it across the ocean (so it is Officially Imported) and then resell it for $30,000

They are purty, like all multicolored longhaired horses, and I am sure they have just as stellar a temperament as all non-hitch-bred draft horses; but, ya know

I have a friend who maybe 10 yrs ago bought a two year old mostly-draft mutt, b/w pinto with lotsa mane and feathers, for $600. He is a dead ringer for any good Gypsy Vanner you'd care to name, and one heck of a lot cheaper

And I've known a bunch similar over the years - though I will say that as the hairy spotted draftX has become trendier the prices have gone up a bit.

But, having said that, if people like them and want to pay those prices, it's a free country.

And I will pass on for your amusement a quote from a pretty well-known 'I' dressage judge I was scribing for at the time, maybe 15-20 years ago before Friesians were anything like as numerous and trendy as they are today... As the horse entered the ring before the bell rang, she said "Oh. <pause> A Friesian. <pause> You know, back in Europe, they were bred <pause> for MEAT!" The horse probably did not score as well as he ought've

She was right (of a certain time period anyhow) but OTOH they are certainly worth something financially today, and are still purty horses with nothing else that really looks like 'em

So glad to hear Eowyn's home, SEND PIX DARNIT! (lol)

Pat

 

[BlackBart]

My copy of Het Friese Paard states they were bred for Agriculture purposes and from the photos dated the early 1900's they were definately a draft horse.

But I am sure during the WW1 &2 any animal would have been eaten for food.

 

[Chicken Fruit]

I am not big into Gypsy's. I cant understand why they cost so darn much- is there even a registry here? I just think theyre pretty in cart. I like feathers... lol, but not color. I feel more educated about them now.

Anyway, pictures anyone?

They're off my cell phone and really crappy- but theyre much better than nothing. Its awesome how even with the crappy quality and the poor lighting you can still see she's FREAKING GORGEOUS! She's going to be a real looker when she's grown.

I got her to give me her feet today- nothing major, just long enough for me to be the one to put them down- .2 seconds

brushed her tail, and brushed waaay under her belly. Then i walked her up to the round pen (husband with me incase I needed muscle) and back down again. She's just such a doll. I've never been around such a well behaved foal, especially a 3 month old! Well... she's 4 months tomorrow, so, 4 month old. But still!

 

[Equest94]

Hm...

3 months old is awful young to be weaned from momma, at least IMO. I heard of certain breeders weaning foals around that age, especially with show horses, but still... My barn managers do not wean their foals until 6 months (give or take a month) and those barns are pretty big show stables and their foals are high in demand.

Anyways, I know how difficult certain breed registries can be, a lady I use to board with imported a Friesian filly, this filly was the whole shebang; registered, foal inspection, breeding certified (with a scheduled breeding when she turned 6). micro chipped (with reg. name, owner's info, and GPS location), etc... Anyways, we live in NY the Filly was imported into California and trailered across the U.S. From what I was told, the breed registration only allowed the trailerer 8 days for them to reach their destination or else they would report her stolen... (which sounds pretty neurotic to me - poor girl, that's a lot of trailer time)


Well, other than that story I do not have much knowledge/experience with the breed. They are gorgeous and your little girl is such a cutie! She's going to be absolutely gorgeous when she gets older! Good luck with her and be sure to post more pics soon!

[to add to the comment about how certain breeds are overpriced:

Friesians, and the Gypsy Vanners, are the "trendy novelty breeds" of this time. A few years ago, Warmbloods were in (over the top) high demand and now the popularity is going towards feathered breeds with long wavey manes... As a result these breeds are being sold for a ton of money - it's more a a fad rather than a purpose. Anything part Friesian is now considered a sporthorse and is sold for 10X the amount it it really worth. Same for the gypsys.

^^^NOTE: I'm not dissing the breed(s) or anyone's ownership, I'm just making a statement.


***Also, the Gypsy Vanner Horse (or Gypsy Cob) was originally bred as a wagon horse and small child's mount. They aren't as popular by terms of riding but are seen as a symbol of strength and beauty... The history isn't well known about the breed (<--- ok...???

) but due to its rise to popularity, many breed registries suddenly developed for it...

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[SOchick]

She is so pretty!