Araucana thread anyone?

[Illia]

Wait, so, forgive me that I don't have a new enough SOP to know (have an old 60's one, waiting on a 2011 edition to arrive in the mail), but, are you saying the SOP calls for a Wheaten based BBR?

Well I guess it does make sense then, otherwise the gold duckwing and BBR females would be identical, but, it's a bit of a let down because I guess now I'll be calling my "BBR" girls as "gold duckwing."

But, hey, that makes it that Wheatens DO exist and are allowed.

Can someone brief me on what the SOP says for female BBR color? Does it mention a true Wheaten-like color or a dark wheaten as found on many Cubalayas?

 

[cashdl]

Cublaya is the correct color. Light cinnamon chest with cinnamon back and wings

Lanae.

 

[cashdl]

Hey Megan,

I didn't notice your question. The ones that are split wheaten lay greenish eggs. The pure wheaten and a couple of other split wheaten are too young to lay, but I expect green to blue. I do not have the roo anymore that I suspect was wheaten. I only suspect because, its his grandaughters who are showing the light chest with the wild type back and wings. I will need to breed them to a son of my original roo who would be split wheaten and see what I get.

Lanae

 

[Stacykins]

Picspam time! Chickens trying to share the same nest box, and are angry with the human interloper!

If looks could kill, I'd be deaded a million times over.

 

[Illia]

Wow, beautiful girls though! Seeing that birchen-esque looking girl I do think Birchen, a true breeding color, would be beautiful on Araucanas.

 

[cashdl]

Illia,

There are a few breeders working on both birchen and brown Red in the Araucana. There have been discussions on the Araucana site about the colors. You keep saying birchen esque but birchen in the Araucana are out there and I have one that has 1 copy of silver and 1 copy of gold and is a golden. His son has two copies of silver and is a birchen. Crow wing is dominant over duckwing and so once you get a crow wing line going, I would think it would be fairly easy to maintain even when bred to duckwing.

Stacy, that one girl is probably from my hatching eggs, because I have a couple running around here from my pens. She is a birchen X silver duckwing which is what my pens are right now. In the spring I will put all the birchen hens in with a silver birchen roo and see what I get.


Lanae

 

[cashdl]

I just went to the Araucana site to confirm and there are 92 posts about the Birchen and Brown Red color, with several breeders working on them.

Lanae

 

[Illia]

Oh no, I do believe you, it's just in the fact that Crow-wing x Duckwing or even Duckwing x Black produce the SAME appearance I don't know what I'm looking at until someone tells me yes it's true Birchen, so I say birchen-esque.

And I'm super excited to see people breeding it, I just hope people realize that because crowwing is dominant to duckwing, that makes it harder. You'll get recessive duckwings pop up now and then, which, isn't terrible considering it is an accepted color, but it needs to be cleaned out well so that you have a true-breeding bird.

Also, if someone shows me they have Birchens that produce occasional duckwings, how am I to know they don't just have two duckwing x blacks bred together who naturally pass on 25% chance of pure duckwing?

Again, not doubting or disagreeing, just sayin'. How am I to know when the two are a bit difficult at the moment to differ unless I see true breeding going on. If I see a hen who's colored that way, I don't know which she is, in fact even Wheaten x black does the same thing, so, just saying it without risk of improperly labelling her.

 

[cackleberrycoop]

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Ha HA! What are those ladies sitting on, by the way? Looks like a big orange ball....

 

[cashdl]

Another note on the Wheaten BBReds. BBReds should be wheaten per the APA standard for both Bantam and Large Fowl, however the ABA bantam araucana calls for Wild Type BBReds, and Ann says most APA shows are APA and ABA approved so it can get confusing, when in the bantam varieties there are two different standards for one color. Only noticible difference is in the hens coloration. So technically both hen colorations are acceptable.

Lanae