Are these African goslings?

I purchased my goslings from a feed store, close to me. I was getting non-medicated turkey starter for them. Then, unexpectedly they switched my feed to a medicated turkey starter, without telling me. Turns out their supplier made the switch without telling the feed store about it. They gave me a bag of non-medicated laying mash in exchange, but the damage was done. I lost a small gosling, Tiny. She was suffering from niacin defiency, butwahhabi started supplementing her, the day after I opened one of the new bags of feed is when she had seizures and died. That can't be coincidence. Now tell me how selling only non-medicated laying mash is good for growing goslings? The calcium alone is bad for babies. Cause that's all that feed store had left to offer. I stopped shopping there and now get my feed from a feed store further away, but they special order flock raiser for me, and have special ordered medicines and even chicks and goslings for me. My new feed store is where I will stay for all my flocks needs.

Not trying to take sides, but sharing what happened. I do believe that the medication in the feed was too much for a gosling that was struggling already. A fully healthy gosling may have been OK, the other 5 showed no serious issues. But they also only ate it for 2 days before I got a different feed for them. Tiny was very small, she wasn't growing as well as the other 5 geese, but she was growing. I think she could have made it, if I had known about both issues before they took her down.
 
To each his own!! I guess as a picky duck/goose/chicken/horse/dog/cat owner I wouldn't feed any of my animals anything medicated. Nor would I feed anything that is not formulated for those animals!!!! To me feeding chick feed to a goose is like feeding dog food to a cat!!


Dogs and cats need slightly different nutrients. Cats need something that starts with T that is not in dog food as dogs don't need it. (sorry, I'm not fully awake yet, need coffee!)
 
Dogs and cats need slightly different nutrients. Cats need something that starts with T that is not in dog food as dogs don't need it. (sorry, I'm not fully awake yet, need coffee!)


This is why I say that I wouldn't feed chick/turkey feed to a duck/gosling or any other water fowl. Because every animal has it's own separate needs!!!!!
PS. Sorry for your loss!
 
Angel wing is my h more complicated than just feed....that's an easy thing to blame. I personally believe it is a genetics environmental interaction. In cases it is caused by inter individual aggression, particularly mixing ages. Seems like you have strong opinions, but limited experience.

Clint


I have though angle wing was genetic and environmental combined. But I don't know about mixing ages. I had 6 geese all same age, same diet, lifestyle everything. Only 1 got angel wing. He case was so sever that I couldn't fix it. I bound her wings and still they flopped out. Now I have added geese of multiple ages, 1 had angle wing that I was able to correct. So not sure if the age thing plays a part in that.
 
I am a microbiologist who specialized in immunology, I trust evidence and tests. I have theories about all the problems my flock has gone through. My main theory is that the hatchery has inbred their stock causing many of the issues my chickens, ducks, and geese have had. (all are from the same hatchery and too many issues to be a fluke or coincidence. My sister works at a dog/cat vet that does high end surgeries. While neither of us is a again specialist, we do agree that the issues must stem from something at the hatchery I purchased them from. I am keeping track of all the issues and researching each one extensively so that I can improve my flocks health, and the health of future generations I hope to hatch.
 
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I personally believe a lot of the problems are related to a reluctance to cull. Poor quality stock is allowed to remain in the population.

Clint
 
I am a microbiologist who specialized in immunology, I trust evidence and tests. I have theories about all the problems my flock has gone through. My main theory is that the hatchery has inbred their stock causing many of the issues my chickens, ducks, and geese have had. (all are from the same hatchery and too many issues to be a fluke or coincidence. My sister works at a dog/cat vet that does high end surgeries. While neither of us is a again specialist, we do agree that the issues must stem from something at the hatchery I purchased them from. I am keeping track of all the issues and researching each one extensively so that I can improve my flocks health, and the health of future generations I hope to hatch.



Hatcheries are just as bad as backyard breeders!
 
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Sorry, I am literally Doctor Mom here. I do basic medical and first aide for 2 boys that beat each other up, 6 dogs, 5 cats (we lost 1 a few days ago, had to euthanize as she had kidney cancer and only 1 kidney, R.I.P. ShadowKat), the chickens, ducks, and geese. So I learn as much about each species/breed as I can to do the best I can for them. I mainly triage, if it's within my skil set, I will doctor at home as I can give IP, IM, and IV injections, as well as minor stitching of wounds. Having my sister helps with slightly more worse cases, but I have taken animals to the vet. Unfortunately no avian vets near me, so my flock has to rely on me 100% for all their care.

Hate it when I know the answer but can't think of it, lol. Brain farts are the worst!
 

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