Are vent gleet and egg binding related issues?

[RedHillChicken]

We have a prolific egg layer, usually 6 a week. She started displaying what looked to be vent gleet - white foamy runny discharge, listless. Her tail feathers were pointed down, and she looked like she was trying to lay an egg. I came inside, and went back out and she'd laid an egg right where I'd left her. We brought her in and gave her a warm epsom salts bath and treated her vent area with monostat. I could feel another egg in her abdomen area so we kept her isolated inside. The next morning we found a normal egg, but later that afternoon we found a leathery shellless egg in her crate. Since then she hasn't laid that we know. All the other girls seem fine, no vent gleet, not egg bound. I guess my question is: Are vent gleet and egg binding caused by the same issue? Thanks for your help in advance.

 

[Tookie]

Could you get a picture of her behind? It may not be vent gleet. Struggling to lay an egg will cause that discharge. Does she smell at all back there?
I would get some calcium citrate +D3 and give her one tablet once a day for a week or so and see if it helps her with those eggs. Struggling to lay eggs (and shell less ones, like the one she last laid) will cause that lethargic behavior.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

She started displaying what looked to be vent gleet - white foamy runny discharge, listless. Her tail feathers were pointed down, and she looked like she was trying to lay an egg. I came inside, and went back out and she'd laid an egg right where I'd left her. We brought her in and gave her a warm epsom salts bath and treated her vent area with monostat. I could feel another egg in her abdomen area so we kept her isolated inside. The next morning we found a normal egg, but later that afternoon we found a leathery shellless egg in her crate. Since then she hasn't laid that we know. All the other girls seem fine, no vent gleet, not egg bound. I guess my question is: Are vent gleet and egg binding caused by the same issue? Thanks for your help in advance.

Doesn't sound like Vent Gleet.
Sounds like urates leaking as she struggling to expel eggs.

I'd give the Extra Calcium as suggested in Post #2 to see if you can get her regulated.

 

[RedHillChicken]

Could you get a picture of her behind? It may not be vent gleet. Struggling to lay an egg will cause that discharge. Does she smell at all back there?
I would get some calcium citrate +D3 and give her one tablet once a day for a week or so and see if it helps her with those eggs. Struggling to lay eggs (and shell less ones, like the one she last laid) will cause that lethargic behavior.

There is no bad smell. The discharge looks to have cleared up. We've been giving her the CC+D3 for almost a week. She's not eating much, so my wife has been putting it on some bread, which she gobbled up. We also have given her the CC+D3 mixed in water in a syringe. She didn't take much that way.This morning she's on her perch, tail kinda downward. We gave her a warm epsom salts soak yesterday. Should we do that everyday? The vent gleet/discharge was heavy at first but none now. Her poops are semi-solid green with watery white urea mixed in. She did poop several times (5-6) yesterday. What's strange is that all of our other hens (14) seem fine. Our barred rocks lay eggs that feel a bit sandy, but that's the way they've always been. A couple of the others eggs appear to have extra calcium on the shells. This picture is one of her eggs when this first started. The vent gleet pic is right before we put her inside and she laid the two eggs (one normal and one leathery with no shell).

 

[RedHillChicken]

Doesn't sound like Vent Gleet.
Sounds like urates leaking as she struggling to expel eggs.

I'd give the Extra Calcium as suggested in Post #2 to see if you can get her regulated.

Just so you know, we have two roosters, so we feed everyone grower/broiler with oyster and chicken shells on the side. Maybe she just wasn't eating enough of the oyster shells. We'll try to give her extra CC today. Thanks WR!

 

[RedHillChicken]

Could you get a picture of her behind? It may not be vent gleet. Struggling to lay an egg will cause that discharge. Does she smell at all back there?
I would get some calcium citrate +D3 and give her one tablet once a day for a week or so and see if it helps her with those eggs. Struggling to lay eggs (and shell less ones, like the one she last laid) will cause that lethargic behavior.

Thanks Tookie!

 

[Wyorp Rock]

We've been giving her the CC+D3 for almost a week. She's not eating much, so my wife has been putting it on some bread, which she gobbled up. We also have given her the CC+D3 mixed in water in a syringe. She didn't take much that way.

Just so you know, we have two roosters, so we feed everyone grower/broiler with oyster and chicken shells on the side. Maybe she just wasn't eating enough of the oyster shells. We'll try to give her extra CC today. Thanks WR!

Just pop the tablet into her beak and let her swallow it.

She laid 2 eggs back to back - she's having a production problem, not Vent Gleet. What you are seeing is yellow colored urates.

If she's not perky this morning, has the tail down, etc., likely she has another 1-2 on the way.

Hopefully the extra Calcium will get her back on track. Sometimes Calcium is not going to fix an issue - it just depends on what's going on with the reproductive system. She may have some type of shell gland issue, is beginning to suffer from a reproductive disorder like EYP, Salpingitis, Cancer, etc. Hard to know.

 

[RedHillChicken]

Just pop the tablet into her beak and let her swallow it.

She laid 2 eggs back to back - she's having a production problem, not Vent Gleet. What you are seeing is yellow colored urates.

If she's not perky this morning, has the tail down, etc., likely she has another 1-2 on the way.

Hopefully the extra Calcium will get her back on track. Sometimes Calcium is not going to fix an issue - it just depends on what's going on with the reproductive system. She may have some type of shell gland issue, is beginning to suffer from a reproductive disorder like EYP, Salpingitis, Cancer, etc. Hard to know.

Thanks WR, your knowledge and insight is greatly appreciated.

 

[RedHillChicken]

Just pop the tablet into her beak and let her swallow it.

She laid 2 eggs back to back - she's having a production problem, not Vent Gleet. What you are seeing is yellow colored urates.

If she's not perky this morning, has the tail down, etc., likely she has another 1-2 on the way.

Hopefully the extra Calcium will get her back on track. Sometimes Calcium is not going to fix an issue - it just depends on what's going on with the reproductive system. She may have some type of shell gland issue, is beginning to suffer from a reproductive disorder like EYP, Salpingitis, Cancer, etc. Hard to know.

WR, I wanted to let you know that Lucy passed. According to a YouTube video I just watched she had Salpingitis, as you suggested. The rubbery/leathery egg, stopped laying, listless, not herself. We did try to give her ACV in her water when she was isolated in the garage, but don't think she drank much. She's been outside with the flock for about a week, and things weren't normal. It didn't seem the others accepted her back in the group because sometimes they'd peck at her if she tried to eat with them. Last night I remember telling my wife that her comb looked mighty pale. We found her this afternoon, but she must have died this morning or even late last night because she was in rigor. Thanks for all your help and information, as always! And by the way, how would you suggest treating for Salpingitis?

 

[Tookie]

WR, I wanted to let you know that Lucy passed. According to a YouTube video I just watched she had Salpingitis, as you suggested. The rubbery/leathery egg, stopped laying, listless, not herself. We did try to give her ACV in her water when she was isolated in the garage, but don't think she drank much. She's been outside with the flock for about a week, and things weren't normal. It didn't seem the others accepted her back in the group because sometimes they'd peck at her if she tried to eat with them. Last night I remember telling my wife that her comb looked mighty pale. We found her this afternoon, but she must have died this morning or even late last night because she was in rigor. Thanks for all your help and information, as always! And by the way, how would you suggest treating for Salpingitis?

So sorry to hear you lost her.