are y'all better off than you were 4 years ago ?

[Chicks on DL]

The average working person who is barely making ends meet are going to be burdened even further. Being more self-sufficient is more important now than ever. I have always wondered if being on welfare was easier than working my *** off every day, but now I worry that I am going to be pushed into proverty between the rising cost of food and being required to carry health insurance or be penalized.

 

[KristyHall]

The average working person who is barely making ends meet are going to be burdened even further. Being more self-sufficient is more important now than ever. I have always wondered if being on welfare was easier than working my *** off every day, but now I worry that I am going to be pushed into proverty between the rising cost of food and being required to carry health insurance or be penalized.

it isn't. Welfare is horrible. Not to mention the stigma from people who have never had to accept a hand up. The only way someone would want to stay on welfare is if they have no choice, or are doing another job under the table.

 

[rufus]

Well, many years ago when I was at the University, in econ class they said that since Roman times that an ounce of gold was worth four hundred loaves of bread. That supposedly stayed constant until modern days. My wife does the shopping, so I am not sure what bread is going for now days.

A currency tied to the value of a metal is hard to debase. After the government confiscated the country's gold in 1932 and only paid twenty dollars an ounce for it, our currency was still backed by silver. And it so stated on the bills.

In 1965 that changed. Lyndon Johnson was fighting a war in south east Asia, or rather guys like me were doing to fighting, Johnson was just paying the bills and doing the talking. At the same time he launched a supposed war on poverty with a plethora of dubious social welfare programs. He needed cash, so the silver went out of circulation and they turned on the printing presses. They have been running ever since.

In 1962 my mother bought a new Rambler automobile. She paid $2,200 for it, all in one dollar bills. Took a whole afternoon to count it out. To buy a new car today would probably run about $30,000. That is inflation.

By way, buy a new car in cash today, and you get reported to the IRS.

I have a ton of old Chinese money. The bills are worthless, but the silver coins are worth about thirty dollars a piece.

 

[Chicks on DL]

I have always felt very grateful for what I have eventhough I live a modest life we are happy. My family is together and very loving and I have great kids but I still worry about providing for them. We have always tried to live within our means and don't buy expensive things or take lavish vacations. We are happy just being together. I am just at a low point right now.

 

[punk-a-doodle]

it isn't. Welfare is horrible. Not to mention the stigma from people who have never had to accept a hand up. The only way someone would want to stay on welfare is if they have no choice, or are doing another job under the table.

The crazy thing is I know people who are or were on welfare and still repeat the terrible things I am hearing directed at, well, really themselves.

 

[rufus]

Interesting reading for the gold bugs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_6102

If the government wants your wealth, they will get it.

 

[duckluck]

Nobody's talking about the elderly here...people who paid into Social Security and Medicare their entire lives, and probably served in the armed services for this country...I am talking about the welfare queens, "baby-mamas" and people who are content to just suck off the state/fed as much as possible, whenever possible. I know of way too many people in way too many of these situations to have anything but utter contempt for them. When they get off their dead derrieres and do something to better their situations instead of cranking out multiple kids with absentee fathers, or just deciding they don't want to work at all and that the world owes them a living complete with benefits, then and only then will they be entitled to anything.

Anyone remember being a kid and having television be a privilege that got taken away if you didn't do your work? Well, now everyone's entitled to it according to our government, and they'll help make sure anyone who can't pay for it has a converter box for the now-digital signal so they can see the mindrot and the lack of decency that is featured daily and nightly on our public networks. Everyone who can't conduct themselves to a certain standard can at least see they aren't all alone in the world, especially with the dramatics featured on those afternoon court shows.

They feel that the "rich" are too rich, that they don't need all their money and that their wealth should be spread around...why? What did they do to earn it? And I don't know about anyone else, but I have never been given a job by a poor person. Jobs come from entrepreneurs who can afford to hire people, and take risks with the money they have to try and make more of it. Redistributing wealth has never brought anyone up but has certainly dragged people down.

 

[duckluck]

Reply to KristyHall: Hmmm...perhaps you have never been to Chicago or New York? People make welfare a lifestyle in those places and brag about it too.

 

[duckluck]

Interesting reading for the gold bugs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_6102

If the government wants your wealth, they will get it.

Yes, and look for more of it to come!

 

[duckluck]

Precious metals and jewels have always been valid currency since ancient times. And they are honored everywhere, unlike any nation's paper money.