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We create power during the day. If we create more than we use the utility company takes it and sells it to our neighbor and gives us an equal credit - we send 1 kwh to our neighbor and we get a 1 kwh credit for later. At the end of the month we pay the customer fee, extra solar net metering fee, and we purchase any energy that we needed beyond what we created. If we created more than we used the credit for that energy rolls over to the next month. If at the end of the year we still have unused credit then they will even our bill by purchasing the extra power at a rate slightly less than wholesale. You really do not want that because it costs more than that to create, so you try to break even (not counting fees, which you will always pay) as closely as possible.

From what I can tell they are trying to find a cheap way to get power at the expense of the solar customers. Say you pay $0.12 per kwh - they are buying that for $0.08 and selling it back to you. They negotiate how much they pay with big power companies. They are proposing that they have to pay as low as $0.02 per kwh to the solar customers, who couldn't negotiate like the big companies. So, instead of giving you equal credit they will give you $0.02 on you bill then turn around and sell it back to you for $0.12. So to break even you would have to produce enough for you and 5 of your neighbors instead of just you. And still pay the solar and customer fees. And what they were paying $0.08 for they want to give you $0.02 for. It costs 10-15 years worth of energy bills to get solar so needing a system that is 6 times larger will kill it.

For the arguments that the solar customers shouldn't get even credit for what they produce... There is little to no line loss going to a neighbors house unlike what you purchase from the utility (which averages 30% of what was originally sent). And most of the time you are transferring that credit from a high usage time to a low usage time (night), which is cheaper for the utility.

Ack, sorry bout that! Hot topic for me, lol!
 
That suit
Oh shoot girl, you are hilarious!!!
I wanted to put out our soaker hose and spray the little brats all dressed up..
You know, kind of freak them out..D.H. Said no. :th
Then I suggested; ok how about get on someone's roof and use a high powered
sprayer? Or wait no, hide in a bush in the suit you are talking about and get them..
Girl, sounds like a good time to me... I love harmless fun.. :tongue


That suit was hilarious!!! Too bad you didn't have it for Halloween :(
 
thanks, I think it is Norway that is going solar a big way....... I wonder if The sun will run out of energy?


The sun won't run out of energy, even if the whole world was solar. If it did it would be the end of the world anyway :) and, we aren't making that faster by using solar - we aren't tapping into the sun, simply using the energy the sun has already released. It's there if we choose to use it or not.

Well, I guess the power company doesn't know that, and I'm sure that the study if funded by the energy company's will find that the solar energy IS NOT sustainable and we will run out before coal and nuclear. It will also coast millions for the study. Also, they WILL find that solar power promots cancer {all those toxic fumes and wast products with solar}.

I had posted before, in 1962 I had solar power for a house I designed.
Also when I was in collage in the mid 90's I wrote 2 reports, one on solar energy, the second one on battery technology as part of solar home energy. Battery's are continuing to improve, in the 90's when I did my research I concluded that living 100% off the grid as not coast efferent do to the high price of battery's and short life span. That battery technology should be watched closely as a future possibility.
 
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Ladyk I think your timing is a little off about having solar at your house in 1962. Unless you were living on a first gen satellite in space.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_solar_cells#1960-1978

passive solar heating/cooling have been around thousands of years and most indigenous architecture takes advantage of it all over the world. And bread box type water heats have been known in the states since at least the 1800s
 
You are correct, those things have been around since the beginning of time. I was under the impression we were all discussing solar powered homes. Not a big deal though, was just trying to give her a little bit of a hard time with her dates going by the Wikipedia timeline of soar.
 
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Ummm..., yes, the sun will run out of energy, as do all stars. Fortunately for us the timescale is so great, it won't matter. It still has five billion years or so left before that happens.
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I get your point though. The shame is that it's there whether we choose to use it or not. It's a waste not to use it.
 
Here in New Mexico, we can actually "sell back" energy to PNM from our PV systems.

That has been the law sense solar started. But, what the power company's wants to do, to my present udders tanning, is pay less for the power and charge them more then other company's when they us their power.

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How can WE complain to the power company's in having us, its customers, subsidize its commercials with OUR money WE PAY them in charges. They want to have us pay more, for what? Not equipment.... But advertising propaganda. Just how stupid are WE THE Customer? :he


Common sense is not so common. $ talks people walk.. Or shal they say.. better run.. Or they will pull out their lawyers..
They like to run you down with their antics.. If I remember correctly there was a law suit and the people won. Possibly in
California ? Cave creek is going threw something like this right now.. I tell ya don't even get me STARTED.. People should never
treat people like this.. Don't forget money is the root to all evil.. It is such a true statement... Hey I know who wins in the end...
 
Advice needed: what do you all use in your nesting boxes and where do you get it?

We use a few different things.. Depending on who has free pine shavings, or after winter our own tree
litter.. The we also buy the hay from the feed store.. Moma hen Chris uses a condense straw that we
want to try for the boxs.. I just DO NOT order online.. Our feed store does not sell them.. If someone
wants to go in on a large order we are in. P.M. Me to work out the details.. Sometimes we miss posts
or go a few days before we can check what's happening here.
 

City farm The first part of this book talks about the use of Mercury to cure illness. It shows the arrogance of the medical field who were aware of the deaths caused by Mercury but continued to use. The second part documents vast exposure of Mercury in our enviroment and links the metal to Autism. For a book on science it is fairly easy read but lenghty.

The white egg is a a tiny bantam egg next to an extra large egg for comparison. The bantam is 1/4 the size of the bigger hen but the egg is 1/2 of the size of the large hen's egg. (Just so the post is chicken related............duh)
 

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