Arizona Chickens

[Gallo del Cielo]

Good idea for a quick fix..,anything to help you feel better while your away..
I wish I had a electric fence around our home, windows, door that would shock people that come to solicit.. For some reason they can not read..

 

[a little chiken]

Have things changed with the laws at all recently? This is the farm that I am talking about.
http://fonddulacfarms.com/

Unless they are going to put for animal consumption only on all of their products that get distributed?

My friend had Nubian goats for a while before she moved into a gated community, but we never got the chance to try her milk. I'm guessing we would probably like something with a higher fat/butterfat content as we still drink whole milk here. My mom tells me stories about how they used to sneak the cream off the top of the milk jugs when she and her siblings were younger.....but now she can't drink anything but skim milk. Yuck.

as long as they are a certified dairy they can sell all the milk they want. AZ is a grade A dairy state and unfortunately that means back yard milkers cannot sell raw or pasteurized milk without having a certified dairy. we can however sell milk for animal consumption only.

 

[a little chiken]

Good idea for a quick fix..,anything to help you feel better while your away..
I wish I had a electric fence around our home, windows, door that would shock people that come to solicit.. For some reason they can not read..

My favorite sign.

 

[moms3cuties]

Good idea for a quick fix..,anything to help you feel better while your away..
I wish I had a electric fence around our home, windows, door that would shock people that come to solicit.. For some reason they can not read..

X2

 

[moms3cuties]

My favorite sign.

I love it!

 

[carnivore]

Yeah, I'm in total agreement.  Feeding them?     Idiots.  You're so right about the easy food.  Part of our problem here in Tucson started with the large number of feral cats, the coyote population exploded in the last decade.  Most of the feral cats are now gone and I think that is forcing the coyotes to work back yards more diligently.  While I prefer to let my birds free-range, you really have to be smarter about it.  One guy at the end of the block had well over a dozen fully grown birds that free-ranged in his front yard and even crossed the road.  I don't think he ever locked them up, even at night.  Within a couple of months they had no more birds.  We saw the coyotes walking down the street with them in their mouths.  Most of the people with chickens in my neighborhood over the past five years or so have lost most or all of their birds to coyotes or bobcats at one time or another.   The losses usually are due to inadequate construction to prevent coyotes from getting in or forgetting to lock them down at night.  The people in my neighborhood that still have chickens have enclosures that keep coyotes out.

My eye opener when I first moved to Diamond Bell was a cat sleeping under a cactus at my rear property line. I slowly snuck up on it, planning to scare the h*** out of it. When I made my final rush, the surprise was on me. It was only half of a cat.

 

[Arizona Son]

I get the theory and as I noted above, it may work in some rural contexts. My concern is that someone in the city here is going to read that and think it's going to provide some protection against coyotes. It won't and it hasn't. I was willing to test it and found it has had no impact on the frequency of visitation to my yard. Maybe going out there several times a day, nearly every day, for the past year isn't enough?

I'm not sure what your neighborhood is like, but hanging a coyote carcass out for all to see and smell would not work in my neighborhood.

Seriously, the best coyote deterrent that I've found in the city is a well constructed chicken enclosure.

X 2! I was going to respond similarly to this post, but you beat me to it! The modern coyote couldnt care less about where you pee'd & what your intentions were whilst doing so. You have poultry in a convenient, captive environment & he is hungry & will exploit that fact. They are HIGHLY intelligent and will most certainly keep returning to your place, even infrequently, until there are no more birds or until you "predator proof" your coop. Or you cut his life short. Those are cold facts, not my opinion.

Coyote-sized live traps are spendy, but O.K. Feeds rents them out. I might have to think about this, it might be worth buying one and lending it out to everyone I can in town. I'm not crazy about re-locating, but at least you can legally transport them to someplace where you can safely and legally dispatch them.

I am willing to relocate them while they are still in the live trap, to a filled water trough.

 

[desertmarcy]

Awwwww, SO CUTE!

I have dreams of getting more farm animals some day. My husband and I are originally from WI, and my mom lived on a dairy farm when she was a child. I would love to be able to give my family fresh cows milk, but there is no where really local for us. I've thought about goats, but my husband doesn't like goats milk products and the kids and I have never tasted fresh goats milk so I would hate to get into it and find out none of us like it! I did discover there is a dairy farm opening soon in Casa Grande though that will be distributing their products. I'm praying their products come to Tucson as we go there about once a month.

There is a dairy in Queen Creek, "Save Your Dairy" that sells organic, raw cow's milk. And a woman near Oracle and River Rds that runs a milk group you can join for free. She orders for you and gets the milk every other Thursday. $10/gallon. She has a dedicated refrigerator in her garage for the milk and you pick it up and leave your money in the envelope, honor system. She is doing a great service to people by doing this. I think otherwise it is $12/gallon at like the Food Co-op. PM me if you want her contact info.

Raw milk is so much better for you and if it sours, it makes the best pancakes or baked goods! Pasteurized milk when it sours, it just becomes rancid.

 

[AnotherKim]

Yes in Texas we used to hang the coyotes in the fence posts to ward off others. Coyotes are coyotes no matter where they are and the urine or carcass method works if done diligently.

Yikes! Doesn't give the house much curb appeal. Chicken Lover's gotta do what a Chicken Lover's gotta do.

 

[AnotherKim]

Oh no, condolences from us..

Thank you. I put ice bottles out today. Hopefully that will help. I noticed they stopped laying the last two days. Is that because of the heat?