Well, good luck with your mixing them with Cemanies!The lady that breeds them is in Phoenix and I know a couple aloha breeders about a six hour drive from Tucson. I forget the name of their town. I met them when they came down to get dwarfs from me. Really nice ladies. If I understand correctly, there's quite a few aloha breeders here in AZ and a lot of great stock since the breed creater is here too. It's fun when a new breed is being worked on so close by.