We trust big government for everything else why not milk? Maybe enough people will feel the pinch when thier foods get controlled to say enough is enough. Maybe...
Article on government crackdown on raw milk
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People sure like to defend big government do they not? it is become a strong arm of the agendas of the control freaks. Are raw milk producers really a threat to the Government subsidized milk producers? I am not sure on this one as it seems like small potatoes unless I am missing something or is it a conspiracy theory?
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That op-ed is a piece of horse pucky. It is not our govt's job to protect us from ourselves by micromanaging our lives down to the detail of what kind of milk we should 'be allowed' to drink. FDA has nothing better to do, honestly?? We are certainly no longer a free people when opting out of industrial food is not permitted.
I have racked my brain as to why the bureaucrats knock themselves out over raw milk. Why are they so hung up on this? It is certainly not out of concern for the well-being of me and my family. Are they just addicted to control of the populace? Anyone have thoughts on this?
I have racked my brain as to why the bureaucrats knock themselves out over raw milk. Why are they so hung up on this? It is certainly not out of concern for the well-being of me and my family. Are they just addicted to control of the populace? Anyone have thoughts on this?
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They just want to control our lives, and have us do want they want us to live, and I hate that! THAT is destroying our freedom. It makes us dependence on the government, and it makes our country weaker, as we no longer have resolve, and a will to live.
Time to take it BACK in 2012!!!
They just want to control our lives, and have us do want they want us to live, and I hate that! THAT is destroying our freedom. It makes us dependence on the government, and it makes our country weaker, as we no longer have resolve, and a will to live.
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How about close to 100 years of successful milk quality regulation that has almost eliminated a major source of food-bourne disease outbreaks? Every time a major outbreak occurs people start demanding stricter food quality regulations. This is not about "them" (the government) versus "us". This is America, the people govern. The populace demands these sort of regulations to protect public health and laws are passed. Last year during the salmonella-tainted egg scare, there were folks standing in front of a congressional sub-committee declaring that the government should have protected them and that something needs to be done; more regulation, more inspection, more compliance. So generally, the regulations on milk are out of concern for the well-being of you and your family.
The reason our governor vetoed the raw milk bill in Wisconsin last year was due to concerns by the dairy industry. It wasn't necessarily due to concerns about competition, but due to fears about what a possible outbreak would do to our state dairy industry. Once again, look to last year's egg scare. A few farms were implicated, but it turned the entire egg industry upside-down, nationwide sales were down for months and it took quite a long time before consumer trust was regained and egg sales returned to normal levels, and the repercussions are still being felt. Dairy farmers live by extremely thin profit margins already, upsets like that can break many farmers. I don't remember the timing of how things went down last year, but it is quite possible that the egg scare directly influenced the result of the governor's vote on our raw milk bill in Wisconsin.
How about close to 100 years of successful milk quality regulation that has almost eliminated a major source of food-bourne disease outbreaks? Every time a major outbreak occurs people start demanding stricter food quality regulations. This is not about "them" (the government) versus "us". This is America, the people govern. The populace demands these sort of regulations to protect public health and laws are passed. Last year during the salmonella-tainted egg scare, there were folks standing in front of a congressional sub-committee declaring that the government should have protected them and that something needs to be done; more regulation, more inspection, more compliance. So generally, the regulations on milk are out of concern for the well-being of you and your family.
The reason our governor vetoed the raw milk bill in Wisconsin last year was due to concerns by the dairy industry. It wasn't necessarily due to concerns about competition, but due to fears about what a possible outbreak would do to our state dairy industry. Once again, look to last year's egg scare. A few farms were implicated, but it turned the entire egg industry upside-down, nationwide sales were down for months and it took quite a long time before consumer trust was regained and egg sales returned to normal levels, and the repercussions are still being felt. Dairy farmers live by extremely thin profit margins already, upsets like that can break many farmers. I don't remember the timing of how things went down last year, but it is quite possible that the egg scare directly influenced the result of the governor's vote on our raw milk bill in Wisconsin.
Control the food and you control the people.
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How about close to 100 years of successful milk quality regulation that has almost eliminated a major source of food-bourne disease outbreaks? Every time a major outbreak occurs people start demanding stricter food quality regulations. This is not about "them" (the government) versus "us". This is America, the people govern. The populace demands these sort of regulations to protect public health and laws are passed. Last year during the salmonella-tainted egg scare, there were folks standing in front of a congressional sub-committee declaring that the government should have protected them and that something needs to be done; more regulation, more inspection, more compliance. So generally, the regulations on milk are out of concern for the well-being of you and your family.
The reason our governor vetoed the raw milk bill in Wisconsin last year was due to concerns by the dairy industry. It wasn't necessarily due to concerns about competition, but due to fears about what a possible outbreak would do to our state dairy industry. Once again, look to last year's egg scare. A few farms were implicated, but it turned the entire egg industry upside-down, nationwide sales were down for months and it took quite a long time before consumer trust was regained and egg sales returned to normal levels, and the repercussions are still being felt. Dairy farmers live by extremely thin profit margins already, upsets like that can break many farmers. I don't remember the timing of how things went down last year, but it is quite possible that the egg scare directly influenced the result of the governor's vote on our raw milk bill in Wisconsin.
Your post is really on point. I love raw milk, I wish I could buy it here, but I also don't want to go back to the kinds of outbreaks we had 100 years ago. Listeria is a very dangerous disease. I would like to see raw milk producers embrace testing and sanitary standards that are so much more stringent than those for commercial dairies that raw milk actually was thought of as safer than pasteurized. It would be a niche product for those that value the undeniable health benefits associated with raw milk and are willing to pay for that quality. I think that market exists. Especially for cheeses that are not aged to the current 60 day requirement, but also for the milk itself.
ETA: I think sheep and goat's have a really important role to play in this since they freeze so well. It opens up so many safe storage and delivery options.
How about close to 100 years of successful milk quality regulation that has almost eliminated a major source of food-bourne disease outbreaks? Every time a major outbreak occurs people start demanding stricter food quality regulations. This is not about "them" (the government) versus "us". This is America, the people govern. The populace demands these sort of regulations to protect public health and laws are passed. Last year during the salmonella-tainted egg scare, there were folks standing in front of a congressional sub-committee declaring that the government should have protected them and that something needs to be done; more regulation, more inspection, more compliance. So generally, the regulations on milk are out of concern for the well-being of you and your family.
The reason our governor vetoed the raw milk bill in Wisconsin last year was due to concerns by the dairy industry. It wasn't necessarily due to concerns about competition, but due to fears about what a possible outbreak would do to our state dairy industry. Once again, look to last year's egg scare. A few farms were implicated, but it turned the entire egg industry upside-down, nationwide sales were down for months and it took quite a long time before consumer trust was regained and egg sales returned to normal levels, and the repercussions are still being felt. Dairy farmers live by extremely thin profit margins already, upsets like that can break many farmers. I don't remember the timing of how things went down last year, but it is quite possible that the egg scare directly influenced the result of the governor's vote on our raw milk bill in Wisconsin.
Your post is really on point. I love raw milk, I wish I could buy it here, but I also don't want to go back to the kinds of outbreaks we had 100 years ago. Listeria is a very dangerous disease. I would like to see raw milk producers embrace testing and sanitary standards that are so much more stringent than those for commercial dairies that raw milk actually was thought of as safer than pasteurized. It would be a niche product for those that value the undeniable health benefits associated with raw milk and are willing to pay for that quality. I think that market exists. Especially for cheeses that are not aged to the current 60 day requirement, but also for the milk itself.
ETA: I think sheep and goat's have a really important role to play in this since they freeze so well. It opens up so many safe storage and delivery options.
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If someone really wants to purchase raw milk, they buy it to feed to their animals or for soap making. Plenty of people sell it under the table with the label it is for animal or cosmetic use only, so if the buyer drinks it, they know the consequences.
In Europe they allow raw milk sales. There aren't huge outbreaks of human brucellosis, the main concern with raw milk. So the paranoia is rather unfounded. I am surprised that recently the FDA officially lowered the recommended cooking temperature for pork, meaning they are less paranoid about trichinosis. If only they'd do the same for milk.
In Europe they allow raw milk sales. There aren't huge outbreaks of human brucellosis, the main concern with raw milk. So the paranoia is rather unfounded. I am surprised that recently the FDA officially lowered the recommended cooking temperature for pork, meaning they are less paranoid about trichinosis. If only they'd do the same for milk.
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