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pointsLunch:
0 pts 1 cup cooked spinach
3 pts 4 oz canned salmon
1 pts 1 tbsp white basalmic vineger

4 points for lunch
5 points for breakfast coffee with half and half

42 points left for the day


for those who are interested.... Points are assigned to you according to your age height and current weight for the week. I started out with 58 points and as my weight goes down I am now at 51 points.

This adjusts the calories as you loose weight to keep you loosing weight.

There are NO foods not allowed on the program.... but they encourage you to eat lots of fruits and vegitables because they are mostly zero point foods.

I love Greek yogurt and fresh fruit for dessert....

deb
 
It's not so much the calories as where you are getting the calories from. For instance 100 calories of oil is not equal to 100 calories of fruit.
 
It's not so much the calories as where you are getting the calories from. For instance 100 calories of oil is not equal to 100 calories of fruit.

Not counting calories..... counting points

1 tsp oil = 1 point
1 tbsp oil = 4 points

1 orange = 0 points

meat protiens are counted 1 point per ounce except fish.... you get a little more.

cheese 1 ounce = 4 points

eggs 1 whole egg = 2 points
eggwhite from 3 eggs = 1 point

all veggies except for starchy ones are 0 points

Starchy vegetables

Potato 1 medium baked plain = 5 points

Its geared to optimize your food Veggies keep you full and help your digestion... Oils are essential for many many body functions.... More fish = less animal fat... so fish eating is encouraged...

But you are right calories are calories.... but what your body uses those calories for is essentail to having a well balanced food program.

For what its worth I am a lifetime member.... Lost all my weight when I was 25 and kept it off for about four years. The program changes almost every two years because the science of nutrition and weight loss changes as they understand more.

I got where I am now through Depression and self medication I wont go into details....
But suffice it to say I am dealing with both.

deb
 
Not counting calories.....  counting points

1 tsp oil = 1 point
1 tbsp oil = 4 points

1 orange = 0 points

meat protiens are counted 1 point per ounce  except fish....  you get a little more. 

cheese  1 ounce = 4 points

eggs   1 whole egg = 2 points
eggwhite   from 3 eggs = 1 point

all veggies except for starchy ones are 0 points 

Starchy vegetables

Potato  1 medium baked plain = 5 points

Its geared to optimize your food Veggies keep you full and help your digestion...  Oils are essential for many many body functions....   More fish = less animal fat...   so fish eating is encouraged...  

But you are right calories are calories....  but what your body uses those calories for is essentail to having a well balanced food program.  

For what its worth I am a lifetime member....  Lost all my weight when I was 25 and kept it off for about four years.     The program changes almost every two years because the science of nutrition and weight loss changes as they understand more.  

I got where I am now through Depression and self medication  I wont go into details....
But suffice it to say I am dealing with both.  

deb
I know what it's like to be low. Really low. I only really have my mother and sister, but they're so supportive, I'm very grateful for that. They've kept my head above water. I think you're a very strong person, and also a very nice person. And it's hard to be nice - hard to care, when you have so much to deal with. Best of luck with everything.
 
Not counting calories.....  counting points

1 tsp oil = 1 point
1 tbsp oil = 4 points

1 orange = 0 points

meat protiens are counted 1 point per ounce  except fish....  you get a little more. 

cheese  1 ounce = 4 points

eggs   1 whole egg = 2 points
eggwhite   from 3 eggs = 1 point

all veggies except for starchy ones are 0 points 

Starchy vegetables

Potato  1 medium baked plain = 5 points

Its geared to optimize your food Veggies keep you full and help your digestion...  Oils are essential for many many body functions....   More fish = less animal fat...   so fish eating is encouraged...  

But you are right calories are calories....  but what your body uses those calories for is essentail to having a well balanced food program.  

For what its worth I am a lifetime member....  Lost all my weight when I was 25 and kept it off for about four years.     The program changes almost every two years because the science of nutrition and weight loss changes as they understand more.  

I got where I am now through Depression and self medication  I wont go into details....
But suffice it to say I am dealing with both.  

deb
anyone taking the time to change their diet knows that it's a big undertaking and something I think most who don't have a hard time grasping. What you've done and continue to do with food is commendable and I know I've said it before but I'll always look forward to any conversation about food your willing to have.
Coincidentally is canned salmon worth more or less than fresh?
Plenty of other questions and suggestions as long as your open to it.

A.
 
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And yes, there are always new fad diets, but fruits, veggies and other plant foods are always healthy. So's drinking lots of water. If I could I would eat nothing but fruit, maybe if I'm rich one day I will. (This isn't me preaching, I'm just saying this because it's how I feel.)
 
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And yes, there are always new fad diets, but fruits, veggies and other plant foods are always healthy. So's drinking lots of water. If I could I would eat nothing but fruit, maybe if I'm rich one day I will. (This isn't me preaching, I'm just saying this because it's how I feel.)

This thread got started because I have a very large soapbox
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. Please share your thoughts of food. I share your enthusiasm for water, aside from the occasional alcoholic beverage it's practically all I drink. raw veggies and fruit are certainly a good choice of any diet to choose.

A.

Seriously I love water
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This thread got started because I have a very large soapbox
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. Please share your thoughts of food. I share your enthusiasm for water, aside from the occasional alcoholic beverage it's practically all I drink. raw veggies and fruit are certainly a good choice of any diet to choose.

A.

Seriously I love water
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I couldn't help but notice a lot of people on here talk about a 'soap box', but I don't really understand the phrase, I'd never heard it before joining this website. Could you explain it to me?

I do have a couple of recipes for breads, curries, oat milk, ice cream (not really ice cream, but a frozen dessert) and a few other things that I could share, but I would like to get pictures and do it properly, which I can't at the moment.

And yes, water is great :D
 
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OUnce for ounce cooked the cooked weight is the same.... all meat products should be weighted cooked. But the nutritional value is probably higher. I cant do fresh because Id have to freeze it any way kind of defeats the purpose. the canned stuff is cooked right in the can no oil added... No water added either.... when you open it up it smells mild not like canned tuna.

Same goes for frozen veggies. Fresh is best especially out of the garden. in the grocery store they do their best to keep them fresh with refrigeration but at best the veggies in the store are at least three or four days old from farm to packing plant to central wearhouse to just in time delivery to the store.... Frozen veggies are processed in the field and as long as they are kept frozen theoretically they will have as much nutritional content as fresh.... they are dependend on the quality of the freezer storage at their destination though.

I dont have the luxury of a large freezer.... its a bit bigger than the old tyme freezer above the refrigerator but its below and a drawer.... do not like it. I have to freeze things flat then stick them down in the freezer like organizing books. Even then stuff gets wadded down to the bottom and forgotten.



I had a beautiful upright freezer at home till my roommate ruined it... Could have held a quarter beef....


The goal I have is if it doesnt taste good I wont eat it no matter how good it is for me.... Therefore I read the lables with a particular eye. Low fat on a package may mean they added in sugar to make up for the flavor difference.... Peanut butter is a prime example....

But in actuality sugar is not evil.... Its a natural preservative... flavor enhancer.... Lately the fresh fruit I have been getting is pretty tart.... acidic hard for me to eat. But a teaspoon of sugar sprinkled on sliced fruit only adds one point to the dish. the sugar macerates the fruit and it makes an excellent desert mixed with non fat greek yogurt. and for calory counters one tsp of sugar is 9 calories.

My other tricks are to use flaverful oils for dressings.... Olive, Sesame... But you dont have to use alot I can make a decent dressing with Olive oil Lemon juice and Soy sauce.... All things I can request at a restaruant.

Apple sauce can be substituted for oil in cake recipes.... changes the flavor some but no one will notice.

Brownie mix mixed with a can of black beans not only cuts the amout of sugar in the brownies but increases the fiber content. Again people will notice but not be able to identify the change.

from Allrecipes.com http://allrecipes.com/recipe/237100/brownie-mix-black-bean-brownies/
""Blend black beans and water together in a blender until smooth; pour into a bowl. Stir brownie mix into black bean mixture until batter is smooth; fold in 1/2 cup chocolate chips. Pour batter into prepared baking dish. Sprinkle remaining 1/2 cup chocolate chips over batter.""

I dont bake or this would be a redlight food for me. Red light foods are where I have difficulty exercising self control....

deb
 

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