Assisted Hatch Question - Help!

Cerenity

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Hey all - this is my second batch of eggs and I'm happy with the hatch rate so far. 10 ended up fertilized and one quit a couple of weeks ago, so, 9 total set for the 21 days. 8 chicks are out! The first seven came on the eve of day 21 (with a couple of over achievers who actually HATCHED on the eve of day 21). But - two eggs pipped yesterday, along with the rest and, as of this morning, still had not zipped. I was less worried about the 8th egg because that chick was in there knocking around and chirping up a storm. Sure enough, when I got home, she was out.

But, my 9th egg had made almost no progress since the initial pip. And this afternoon, still nothing. We are just past 24 hours since the pip. The external pip started to look a little gunky and yellowish, so, I did my best to try my first assist. I wrapped the egg in a warm wet paper towel and tried to peel some of the shell away. Chick is still inside and alive, but, I did not see a beak around the external pip. I pulled as much of the shell away headed towards the air sac as I dared, but, the membrane feels thick and dry, I can see why she is struggling.

She started pecking where I was messing around with my tweezers, so, I tried to work with her to make the hole in the membrane a little bigger. Once I did that, her little beak poked through and I figured that was a good start, so I put her back in the incubator with two wet paper towels to drive the humidity up. I also put some vegetable oil on the exposed pieces of membrane. The membrane still looks pretty red internally. Any of the more experienced folks want to let me know their thoughts about where to go from here? Something tells me she is malpositioned and is going to have a hard time getting out on her own.

No new progress in the 30-45 minutes or so since my assist attempt. She's just got her little beak out the hole in the membrane and opens and closes her beak every so often.

Here is a short video of her - right at the beginning, you can see her little beak move as I described:
 

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Are you familiar with the opening and closing of the beak they do when absorbing the yolk? I'm wondering if that is still happening. Also did you see any veins when when you put the oil on? It sounds like you are on the right track. Maybe open just a bit more around her beak and try to get the membrane off any places the shell is off (as long as no veins). I would keep helping bit by bit giving it a chance to make progress on its own after each small chipping.
 
Have you read this?
Guide to Assisted Hatching for All Poultry

Guide to Assisted Hatching for All Poultry

Preface If you need immediate instructions on how to assist a hatch, you may skip this section and go to the next one, where the instructions are. To start with, I want to address the fact that some people think assisting during a hatch is wrong. I respect the decision to not help during a...
 
Are you familiar with the opening and closing of the beak they do when absorbing the yolk? I'm wondering if that is still happening. Also did you see any veins when when you put the oil on? It sounds like you are on the right track. Maybe open just a bit more around her beak and try to get the membrane off any places the shell is off (as long as no veins). I would keep helping bit by bit giving it a chance to make progress on its own after each small chipping.
Yes, I read that the opening and closing of the beak means they are still absorbing, so, that was part of the reason I stopped. Did I see any veins...yes, but, I don't think they were super red. There was a little tiny bit of blood where it was torn, but, not even enough to try to stop. It has been a couple of hours, so, I may try for it a little bit more. Should I try and pierce the membrane on the side where the air sac is, you think?

@Cerenity do you see red veining? When assisting it's best to go right to left from where the chick peeped. I wouldn't open the shell around it anymore. How's the cheeping, is it strong?

No cheeping lately since I helped, I'm afraid. That's part of what has me concerned. I did see some veins, but, I didn't think they were particularly red.
 
Have you read this?
Guide to Assisted Hatching for All Poultry

Guide to Assisted Hatching for All Poultry

Preface If you need immediate instructions on how to assist a hatch, you may skip this section and go to the next one, where the instructions are. To start with, I want to address the fact that some people think assisting during a hatch is wrong. I respect the decision to not help during a...
Yes, it was very helpful! I'm just not really sure where I am to gauge my next moves.
 
@Cerenity If there was any bleeding I would wait. Once the veins look orange then you can peel more membrane. I would only chip the shell away right to left, like a chick zips. Chick can breathe fine if the beak is exposed. They also take breaks
 

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