Attempt#2, looking for advise

[ChickenKatie]

I neglected to mention that this actually happened twice, the first batch had no vitamins at all before they died. The last four lasted about a week, they hatched about two days after I lost the first 20. They had vitamin water, but not until they were about 5 days old, they died at 8 days. Both instances they started chirping loudly when we were cooking dinner, and died a few minuted later. It seems a little suspicious, too suspicious to overlook. It may have been something different, but I'm not taking any chances this time!! Thank you all for responding so quickly, this is such a great resource!!

 

[needlefrau]

The "owners manual" for a new set of pans I received mentioned that I should avoid letting oil burn in teflon pans in the presence of birds. I wondered what on earth brought on such a warning...

Just got a rooster and some chicks yesterday. I haven't raised chickens in more than forty years. I wanted to say thanks to all of you folks for advice that got me going.

 

[Tweeza]

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Recently in a store I overheard a couple talking about seasoning their new cast iron out on the grill instead of in the oven. I asked why and they said the burning oil would kill their parrot. Might be a clue if you fry or deep fry a lot of things.

My other concern for you would be the card board box. I had my chicks in a box with a few holes in the sides. It was not enough ventilation for them and I almost lost two to some kind of respiratory problem. They were breathing so hard and were lethargic. They got well when I got them out of the box. I was surprised they made it. They had no meds of any kind.

 

[Chicken Rustler]

I have had parrots for many years and one of the many things I have learned is that non-stick pans DO give off toxic fumes and they are worse if the pan is allowed to overheat. Birds are very sensitive to fumes and many things we use give off enough fumes to be dangerous to them. The fumes are most likely what caused the problem for you. Hope you have better luck in the future.

 

[Mahonri]

I learn something new here every day.

 

[ItsSuzzie]

Hello everyone. No, I have never had this happen. OMG, the tears I would shed. No chick should suffer like that. Have a thought though.

Were your hatching eggs NPIP approved flock. That is a flock that is tested for certain diseases and is recomended for clean eggs. Hatching infected eggs would fill the incubator with bacteria.

If you go to your local feed store and look for the Dept. of Ag. callendar, it mentions a disease with neck twisting and the such. I would research the NPIP program and read the diseases they are testing for and their symptoms. Sounds like a bad thing to keep around.

There is a disease that the hen gets, and a human can eat the egg ok, but if the egg is hatched, the disease comes alive again and will infect your whole flock.

Good luck to you, hope you solve the mystery. Dept. of Ag. should have a help line to report sick birds and this is one that they should test to identify. You certainly do not want this disease though your entire flock.

 

[RlgNorth]

Kindof scared to have chicks now..... Never heard of the nonstick pans, They are coming on april 16th and they will be in my master bathroom but my house isn't the best if you burn somthing you can smell it throughout the house. So my question is .....should I stop using the nonstick pans till they are outside? I do have couple fo plain steel ones I can use . I just dont want anything to happen to them cause im new to this I realize I can only do soo much for them but if that one thing I can prevent then I definatly want to.

 

[Chicken Rustler]

IMHO I would not use the nonstick while the chicks are in the house. I am sure others will disagree and that is up to them. We don't even have nonstick in our house 1) because of our parrots and 2) because since the fumes are so dangerous to the birds I really don't think it is totally safe for people, just not as critical.
Good luck.

 

[ajablu]

This is new to me. I am glad I saw this post.
I keep thinking that if it can kill a bird, it can't be too safe for people either.

 

[toyzbox]

It’s true that if the house is well ventilated the chance of fume exposure drops to some extent. But because a birds respiratory system is so small and so fast compared human lungs, it only takes one whiff and the damage is done. Unless you don’t mind taking a chance the only safe thing to do is not use Teflon or any other non-stick surface. Not a pro with chickens but I have been raising parrots of all sizes for a long time. To many times I seen this happen to folks who loved their birds but did not know about the risk.