Australia - Six states..and that funny little island.

[satay]

Its lovely.I bet the horses love it when you turn up and same as the dogs. That's why I love animals- they are unconditional. Sam is always waiting for me at the front door at 4 am when I leave for his "good boy watch my family " pat. I have noticed these guys are very friendly and I hand feed them. Fred in particular And I have one neighbour onside to keep him YAY

Sam is such a great boy. As you know I don't do that time of the morning but if I had to I could just imagine my boys being like " whatever can't you see we are sleeping "

 

[Fancychooklady]

Just a little update on Carl. This morning after two days on her new grass free diet her crop was still full but not as full as it has been, and not as hard feeling either.

Kept her in the bunny cage again today and she did eat a bit this morning and this afternoon I gave her some fresh food and put winry (our mild cross beak) in with her figuring she could eat what Carl didn't and it would do her good too as she is always a bit on the skinny side. Well apparently that is the secret, Carl suddenly discovered she had a huge appetite after all after pecking winry to tell her it was not for her.

Been giving her only soft easily digested foods plus vitamins and probiotics and the fennel tea to drink and I can definatly see an improvement. Hopefully her crop will be even better tomorrow morning. Oh and I also put a bowl of grit in there too and she did peck at that a bit too.

That sounds promising. I hope she continues to improve.
I found this interesting article on crop canker and its relation to slow crop and impaction. It's actually a Protozoan living in the crop .

http://forum.thepoultrysite.com/discussion/7769/redirect/p1

 

[Teila]

Sam no argument here, your beautiful lady IS beautiful! Loving the pictures of your flock.

Fancy agreed, very frightening.
I have a friend in the States who has chickens showing symptoms of a viral infection of some kind; she has lost 2 I think and has 2 more with symptoms. She is sending one for a necropsy; I so hope it is something she can fight.

I used to feed the wild birds around here; before I wised up to the dangers and now I do my utmost to keep them at a distance. I leave nothing to tempt them into the garden.

appps I totally agree with satay, Carl’s improvement is great news. I haven’t really chipped in much except to offer support as you were getting advice from the best in here and also from the Vet, who I am in no position to argue with; but letting her eat grass sounded a bit suss to me also.

Lols on the “whatever can’t you see we are sleeping” satay .. with cats it is worse .. “Who turned that light on? Are you insane?!”

No news of note; Dusty continues to lay an egg every day or so, we have had 5 in 8 days. I believe she is working on a remake of Coneheads and is laying her own family of stars to fill the roles! If the eggs were any pointier I would need gloves to pick them up

 

[appps]

That sounds promising. I hope she continues to improve.
I found this interesting article on crop canker and its relation to slow crop and impaction. It's actually a Protozoan living in the crop .

http://forum.thepoultrysite.com/discussion/7769/redirect/p1

Interesting.

Oh and I wormed all but Carl today. Decided I'd let her get a bit healthier first. I don't think they drank it :-(. It really looked pretty much as full as this morning by tonight and when I put winry in with Carl she spent over five minutes just drinking carls water, suspect she mustn't have drunk all day with the worming water.

 

[Fancychooklady]

Interesting.

Oh and I wormed all but Carl today. Decided I'd let her get a bit healthier first. I don't think they drank it :-(. It really looked pretty much as full as this morning by tonight and when I put winry in with Carl she spent over five minutes just drinking carls water, suspect she mustn't have drunk all day with the worming water.

Yeah, there's a bit of trick to get them drinking it. Before dusk go out and remove all water sources. Next morning mix the wormer up and fill all the water dishes. They will usually drink their fill before they realize the difference. You really want them to drink as much as possible in a 6-8 hour period. After that tip it out and replace with fresh water.

 

[Teila]

Hey Fancy while we are talking worming

My big gals are due for a worming but I have been putting it off until the chicks are older. I am using Kilverm this time around.

What is the youngest age you would recommend worming chicks? Crystal and KiKi are just over 9 weeks old now.

 

[Fancychooklady]

Hey Fancy while we are talking worming 

My big gals are due for a worming but I have been putting it off until the chicks are older.  I am using Kilverm this time around.

What is the youngest age you would recommend worming chicks? Crystal and KiKi are just over 9 weeks old now.

I usually don't worm them till they are 12- 16 weeks. There is some evidence to say that they tend to have a natural resistance up to 3-4 months of age .

 

[Teila]

I usually don't worm them till they are 12- 16 weeks. There is some evidence to say that they tend to have a natural resistance up to 3-4 months of age .

Thank you, as always I appreciate your advice.

So, the big gals were wormed on 27th Nov with Kilverm and are due pretty much now. Do you reckon I would be OK to leave them all until the littlies are 14 weeks old, or best to do the big girls now .. problem is that Cilla is still with the bubs and will miss out.

What I can do is do the big gals, then Cilla and bubs at 14 weeks, which means next time round, they will be done about 5 weeks early?


So basically, better to leave those due now for 5 weeks or worm Cilla and Co at just under 5 months next time round?

Everyone seems healthy and this is just the precautionary treatment.

 

[Fancychooklady]

Thank you, as always I appreciate your advice.

So, the big gals were wormed on 27th Nov with Kilverm and are due pretty much now.  Do you reckon I would be OK to leave them all until the littlies are 14 weeks old, or best to do the big girls now .. problem is that Cilla is still with the bubs and will miss out.

What I can do is do the big gals, then Cilla and bubs at 14 weeks, which means next time round, they will be done about 5 weeks early?


So basically, better to leave those due now for 5 weeks or worm Cilla and Co at just under 5 months next time round?

Everyone seems healthy and this is just the precautionary treatment.

I would just wait until they are 12 weeks then worm everyone. Don't forget to reworm in 7-10 days.
Better worm them all at once if they are on the same ground. Then do them again mid spring.

 

[Teila]

I would just wait until they are 12 weeks then worm everyone. Don't forget to reworm in 7-10 days.
Better worm them all at once if they are on the same ground. Then do them again mid spring.

While they are not fully integrated as yet, there is some sharing of common ground. I will do them all in 3 weeks and yep, won't forget the redose.

Thanks again! I didn't think of the common ground factor.

As I said, no-one looks unwell and I do use ACV in their water. I know it is not a wormer but apparently it maintains a good pH balance in their digestive system and makes it a little uncomfortable for worms to live in.