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[Anniebee]

Hi fellow aussies

Have a question I'm hoping someone can help me with.
Does anyone know where I can get either Fish-zole or Flagyl? Everywhere I look they either don't have or need a prescription.
I have a hen with canker and don't want to go to the vets and pay a consult fee when I already know what's wrong.

While I respect your needs and observations, Flagyl is a fairly hefty type anti-biotic for use ( in humans ) for vaginal, skin, stomach, joints and respiratory tract infections. ... which from your post, I suspect you know already. ... You do not mention where on your hen, the canker is appearing.

I respond for no other reason, other than to warn against purchasing this product, via the Internet. .... Much and all as you do not want a veterinarian consult, I really think that is the only way you can go, to be absolutely safe for your chicken with canker. It is a weird disease, and often is ( in humans ) exacerbated by improper diet. I don't know what diet you are feeding her, but avoid vegetables at this stage would be a suggestion ... basing this on what increases the incidence of canker in humans ( and animals and birds are not so different in many instances ) .

Worth a try I would think. A bland diet - rice, maybe a bit of cheese for protein, and her normal laying pellets. ... nothing more ? Fish-zole I know nothing about, except ( from searching ) that it is used for fish and on occasion for birds. It is Metronidazole - not familiar with it at all. ... IF you are happy with that, some stock and feed stores may have it. ...

Good luck - will be interested to know the outcome.

Cheers .......

 

[cwrite]

I'm in Riverstone western Sydney and I should have some ducklings and chicks this season. Pics on my profile page.
*shy wave*
Hello my fellow Auzzies so great to meet you!

Welcome to BYC! I could only see your main pic, but it looks like your birds have a lovely green area to enjoy.

Satay, congrats on the arrival of Sunday and your chicks!

I'd also find it hard to work with that cutie to watch.

Luke, I had a quick peek at your website and it looks great as do your eggs. Good luck with your venture - I'm sure you will do well.

Teila, I had a good laugh at Dusty. She's keeping you on your toes for sure.

All is quietish with my little flock. I've had to reduce their access to the lawn by putting up another fence just for a while. With exams I kept up with everything except depooping the lawn and it needs a rest now to recover. I keep telling myself that they are not looking sadly through the fence - it's all in my mind. It's been two days now and I got five eggs today which is the most I've had for a while which makes me suspect that the crows have been getting some for a while now.
I'm thinking of sprouting seeds to up their greens now that they don't have access to the lawn. Does anyone have any tips for how best to sprout seeds without them going mouldy and what type of seeds are best for chooks?

 

[Anniebee]

TGIF .. 5% Day on the 100% work week

Fancy that first frosty pic I had to look at twice; I thought it was a cracked window and then realised it was a frozen web .. beautiful pics but you can keep the temperatures required to take them

Anniebee Thankfully we were not woken by the sounds of a Henster this morning. Dusty has not laid for 8 days but, being bantams, all of my girls are a bit sporadic when it comes to laying and frequently take long breaks.

Tee hee at “3 fat chickens”. I always chuckle at my gals in the afternoon. I take out any of the food they have not eaten in the run during the day and pop it on the lawn; they all come running over and hoe into it like it hasn’t been available all day

This morning Blondie was just standing there, no interest in breakfast [or going all ninja chicken on the broom!

], looking a little puffed up .. I was a little concerned but all standard health checks appeared OK. She perked up 30 minutes or so later and has been scratching around and also visiting the nest box and chowing down on the shell grit. I think she is going to lay her first egg after being broody and moulting but I am also keeping a very close eye on her just in case that first egg is causing her problems.

Cilla laid her second egg after her ‘being a mumma’ break and it was so cute to see her in the nest box with KiKi snuggled up next to her and Crystal perched on the edge watching .. I reckon I could see Cilla thinking “Gees, can’t a Mum lay an egg in peace?!”. The bubs are nearly 4 months old!

I hope everyone copes with those arctic winds predicted to hit soon.

To Teila ... I do think this weird weather ( particularly in Queensland - you are not used to low temps and especially 'snow' ??? which the newscast predicted might happen for you all up there this week ( mind you, I don't place a lot of store by what newscasts forecast !! ). ....is upsetting our beloved chooks. ... My Mandy Welsummer has returned ( with gusto ) to her former bully, "I'm queen of the run - so rack off " stance, in the past two days. ... she is displaying increasingly, red wattles and larger red comb, but has been walking around with her tail down some of the time, which I am not too happy with ... apparently that can denote something wrong ? .... ( am not up to standard on all that ). The tail eventually lifts, after she has been out and about for a little while in the run. ... It is very very cold here, and they spend their days in their coops - trying I guess to stay warm. ... there is much uproar in the nest box ( where they prefer to sleep !!! ) with shuffling into preferred sleeping arrangements .... this past two evenings - - and I know who is coming off second best ... poor Molly, who has just recently completed her moult. Molly's comb and wattle are tiny shrunk, so she is not displaying any indications at this time to lay. Mandy could possibly come back into lay in the next few weeks. .... but she is being a real (b)witch. .... Perhaps it is her hormones working that is making her so darned aggressive, and 'on fire' ?

Can only hope that with warming weather ( whenever ) ... that they settle down. ????

This coming week is being promised to be a doozy down here in Victoria. ... all ultra cold, and if it remains cold enough, there will be snow down to low levels. I would like that - but what of the chooks. !! ... American folk know their chooks handle snow and ice very well ... we have yet to be informed on that score - but I think Tasmanian people here, know their chickens just shrug and say - "what the heck - it's cold Mum - get over it " !!!

Ain't easy, bein' Mumma to chooks !! ...

Cheers .......

 

[Kleonaptra]

I used to live in an area like that.  When builders cleared & dug foundations it looked like it had snowed there was so much chalk.  Our neighbour had to run acid through their pipes to clear the build up of calcium and then flush all the acid out!  I'd never even heard of such a thing before.  I sure don't' miss it, but never thought about chickens drinking that water.  Perhaps it's absorption rather than total calcium intake that's the problem, or it could just be a one off in a young hen?

Very interesting! I get shell less or soft shells quite regular, and there is white runoff from next doors property that would seep into my pen. I've had to supplement my horses because of odd things going on with calcium in the soil and I'm thinking now this might be what's up with my girls! Most of the time my eggs are great but when they go through rough patches this might be the missing piece to my puzzle

 

[sjturner79]

I used to live in an area like that.  When builders cleared & dug foundations it looked like it had snowed there was so much chalk.  Our neighbour had to run acid through their pipes to clear the build up of calcium and then flush all the acid out!  I'd never even heard of such a thing before.  I sure don't' miss it, but never thought about chickens drinking that water.  Perhaps it's absorption rather than total calcium intake that's the problem, or it could just be a one off in a young hen?

It looks like it was a one off. The following eggs have been rock hard.

 

[Kleonaptra]

Welcome to BYC!  I could only see your main pic, but it looks like your birds have a lovely green area to enjoy.

Satay, congrats on the arrival of Sunday and your chicks!    I'd also find it hard to work with that cutie to watch.

Luke, I had a quick peek at your website and it looks great as do your eggs.  Good luck with your venture - I'm sure you will do well.

Teila, I had a good laugh at Dusty.  She's keeping you on your toes for sure. 

All is quietish with my little flock.  I've had to reduce their access to the lawn by putting up another fence just for a while.  With exams I kept up with everything except depooping the lawn and it needs a rest now to recover.  I keep telling myself that they are not looking sadly through the fence - it's all in my mind.  It's been two days now and I got five eggs today which is the most I've had for a while which makes me suspect that the crows have been getting some for a while now. 
I'm thinking of sprouting seeds to up their greens now that they don't have access to the lawn.  Does anyone have any tips for how best to sprout seeds without them going mouldy and what type of seeds are best for chooks?

Hi and thanks! I've been here for awhile but I had never jumped on this thread, didn't realize there were so many auzzies!
The main reason for seeds going mouldy is keeping the soil too wet, not enough sun. Seed quality can also be a factor, but you shouldn't have that much trouble...my biggest problem with planting anything is the birds eating it before it can grow! Or wrecking it up when its a seedling.

 

[Kooka]

Hi fellow aussies

Have a question I'm hoping someone can help me with.
Does anyone know where I can get either Fish-zole or Flagyl? Everywhere I look they either don't have or need a prescription.
I have a hen with canker and don't want to go to the vets and pay a consult fee when I already know what's wrong.

Was not aware that chooks got canker, it an ulcerated mouth.......usually go away on their own try googling for natural remedy as perscription drug seems a tad over the top to me.

 

[Kooka]

Hi and thanks! I've been here for awhile but I had never jumped on this thread, didn't realize there were so many auzzies!
The main reason for seeds going mouldy is keeping the soil too wet, not enough sun. Seed quality can also be a factor, but you shouldn't have that much trouble...my biggest problem with planting anything is the birds eating it before it can grow! Or wrecking it up when its a seedling.

I sprouted free range mix quite easily
Cut the bottom section off a large coke or similar plastic fill with mixed seed and soak for half a day. Put the open top filled with seed into a cardboard box with the top left open.
Each day wet the seeds and drain. They sprout quickly and will grow like crazy and are ready to use in about a week Remember moist not wet and not soggy. Easy as and they love it. Thing with the free range seed is the variety and they all germinate even the corn and sunflower seeds have a go.
Good luck
Cheers
Andrew

 

[V1cky]

Ye

Was not aware that chooks got canker, it an ulcerated mouth.......usually go away on their own try googling for natural remedy as perscription drug seems a tad over the top to me.

Yeah they can and if left untreated it blocks up their throat and they can't eat or breathe.
I've tried the copper sulphate solution which was mentioned in the diseases forum on this site but it didn't make a difference so I think I'm going to need to get prescription drugs to clear it up.

 

[V1cky]

While I respect your needs and observations, Flagyl is a fairly hefty type anti-biotic for use ( in humans ) for vaginal, skin, stomach, joints and respiratory tract infections. ... which from your post, I suspect you know already. ... You do not mention where on your hen, the canker is appearing.  

I respond for no other reason, other than to warn against purchasing this product, via the Internet.  .... Much and all as you do not want a veterinarian consult, I really think that is the only way you can go,  to be absolutely safe for your chicken with canker.  It is a weird disease, and often is ( in humans ) exacerbated by improper diet. I don't know what diet you are feeding her, but avoid vegetables at this stage would be a suggestion ... basing this on what increases the incidence of canker in humans ( and animals and birds are not so different in many instances ) .  

Worth a try I would think.   A bland diet - rice, maybe a bit of cheese for protein, and her normal laying pellets.  ... nothing more ?  Fish-zole I know nothing about, except ( from searching ) that it is used for fish and on occasion for birds.   It is  Metronidazole - not familiar with it at all. ... IF you are happy with that, some stock and feed stores may have it.  ... 

Good luck - will be interested to know the outcome.  

Cheers ....... 

Metronidazole is what was referred to me on the disease forum which is why I'm trying to find fish-zole somewhere but doesn't look like we stock that here in Oz.

The canker's in her mouth. She's still able to eat atm but don't want to leave it too much longer untreated.

She gets fed mixed grain and standard mash. Is that ok?