Australia - Six states..and that funny little island.

[User395221]

It's good to have a day to remember the past, to thank those serving now and to pray that our children never have to live through a war here.

Hear! Hear! I think we take our secure, comfortable lives for granted. You only have to watch the news to realise how very lucky we are. For those who choose to serve and particularly those who go overseas and put themselves into warzones, they deserve our appreciation and thanks.

Just wondered what others called there chook palaces.

I call the big house the chook house, I call the run that is at the front of the chook house which shares the same roof the covered run and I call the meshed enclosed run which adjoins the chook house/covered run the open run. I call the little coop the little coop, and the fenced area that the little coop is in (no roof) the yard.

 

[Anniebee]

I was actually given that book by our feed store when I first started buying chook feed. Barrastock do list thier anti-cocci on the bags.
It is lasalocid sodium. I believe Laukie also use the same one.

Thanks sjturner79 ... for that info. There is nothing on my Barastoc Golden Yolk layer pellets - but then, there wouldn't be, would there ?.

It is only in the chicken starter,and growth pellets that it would be found ? And we are waaaay beyond that

with rising 4 year old chooks. !!

Interesting, and it is good that it is shown on the young chickie tucker, by Barastoc. Is apparently a broad spectrum anticoccidial agent, and is acceptable
to many manufacturers of food for chickens - to begin with.

Will have to remember all this, when ( IF ) I get more younger than POL chickens one day ........ that's a distant 'one day' at present. !!

Cheers .....

 

[Anniebee]

Lasalocid sodium is a ' gram positive ' antibiotic and as you can see in this article , it is used as a preventative for coccidiosis and also to fatten up birds.

http://www.ema.europa.eu/docs/en_GB...sidue_Limits_-_Report/2009/11/WC500014596.pdf

A mostly interesting and very lengthy article Fancy .....

As it referred to mammals a great deal of the time, I confess to having skipped a lot of that, browsing down to where it mentioned poultry. I could not find the reference to fattening birds, ( although could they be fattened at such a very young age ??? ) .... and I would imagine, considering the chemical analysis, and the experiments conducted according to this survey, most chicken feed producers like Barastoc and Laucke would make sure the measurement of lasalocid sodium would be safely under the various levels conducted in experiments there.

I think that any kind of preventative like this chemical, for starters and chicken raiser food - would be good - as I trust the makers of these products. They have everything to lose and nothing to gain by providing toxic levels of any form of chemical to chicken raisers ...... and chickens.

While I personally, opt for natural anything and everything; as a new chicken raiser ( again - one day if I survive the new puppy as a 'puppy raiser' for a dog assistance programme !!!

) .... I think I would be thankful for anything that might allay the onset of cocci in chickens. I believe a chicken can only remain fat, if it is fed too many 'goodies' ... but if left to feed the appropriate tucker for their age, will be of correct weight and health, decided by their own needs.

Fascinating stuff ... all this chicken business !!

Cheers ......

 

[Anniebee]

It's actually called a ' jap ' pumpkin which literally means ' just another pumpkin ' . Here in tassie it was ' politically incorrect ' to call them ' jap ' so they are called Kent. I find the skin much thinner than that of the Queensland blue and it's much sweeter.

Yeah ditch the mixer , this way there are no dirty dishes and it keeps them occupied for longer.

Fancy .... Another interesting difference between Australian States.

Have never seen or heard of "Kent" pumpkin here in Victoria, but notice in googling that, it is Japala ( or 'Jap' ) pumpkin. However, I have seen a difference here in Victoria .... some supermarkets label that pumpkin Japala, and some label it simply "Jap". To each his / her / their own.

The skin is certainly thinner on the Jap pumpkin, as opposed to the Queensland Blue ( or grey !! ) .... or even the butternut. I often cook Japala pumpkin for us to eat, with the skin remaining on it, .... I eat all of that, my husband carefully scrapes away the pumpkin flesh and leaves the skin. He's a bit odd, methinks.

It's all good food.

I will try the 'smash' bit ... sounds like fun - for the girls and for me. !!

.... Gather you bake for 20 mins, to soften the whole thing up .... makes it easier on the chooks ???

Cheers ......

 

[User395221]

Well, guess where the butternuts I had intended to turn into soup went?

 

[satay]

Fancy  .... Another interesting difference between Australian States.    

Have never seen or heard of "Kent" pumpkin here in Victoria, but notice in googling that, it is Japala ( or 'Jap' ) pumpkin.  However,  I have seen a difference here in Victoria .... some supermarkets label that pumpkin Japala, and some label it simply "Jap".     To each his / her / their own.  

The skin is certainly thinner on the Jap pumpkin, as opposed to the Queensland Blue ( or grey !! ) .... or even the butternut.   I often cook Japala pumpkin for us to eat, with the skin remaining on it, .... I eat all of that, my husband carefully scrapes away the pumpkin flesh and leaves the skin.   He's a bit odd, methinks.      It's all good food. 

I will try the 'smash' bit ... sounds like fun - for the girls and for me. !!     .... Gather you bake for 20 mins, to soften the whole thing up .... makes it easier on the chooks ??? 

Cheers ......  

They are Jap mostly up here but have seen them called Kent occasionally. I love them as well as butternut. I haven't seen a qld blue up here for sale in years.

 

[Fancychooklady]

A mostly interesting and very lengthy article Fancy ..... 

As it referred to mammals a great deal of the time, I confess to having skipped a lot of that, browsing down to where it mentioned poultry.   I could not find the reference to fattening birds, ( although could they be fattened at such a very young age ??? ) ....  and I would imagine, considering the chemical analysis, and the experiments conducted according to this survey, most chicken feed producers like Barastoc and Laucke would make sure the measurement of lasalocid sodium would be safely under the various levels conducted in experiments there.  

I  think that any kind of preventative like this chemical, for starters and chicken raiser food - would be good - as I trust the makers of these products.   They have everything to lose and nothing to gain by providing toxic levels of any form of chemical to chicken raisers ...... and chickens.

While I personally, opt for natural anything and everything; as a new chicken raiser ( again  - one day if I survive the new puppy as a 'puppy raiser' for a dog assistance programme  !!!   ) .... I think I would be thankful for anything that might allay the onset of cocci in chickens.   I believe a chicken can only remain fat, if it is fed too many 'goodies' ... but if left to feed the appropriate tucker for their age, will be of correct weight and health, decided by their own needs. 

Fascinating stuff ... all this chicken business !! 

Cheers ...... 

Annie you may have missed my earlier post, but my point is that the use of antibiotics in our food chain is widely accepted . The FDA has given the industry until the end of 2016 to remove it . We've all seen the campaign about the over prescribing of antibiotics in medicine , what chance do we have if it is routinely used in the beef, poultry, pork and lamb industries ?
I have spoken with my feet, and walked away from medicated chick starter. There are alternative anticocidants on the market and one can only assume that their decision to use lasalocid sodium is one of economics.

http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2015/12/14/adufa-2014/

 

[satay]

Well, guess where the butternuts I had intended to turn into soup went? 

 

[Fancychooklady]

They are Jap mostly up here but have seen them called Kent occasionally. I love them as well as butternut. I haven't seen a qld blue up here for sale in years.

I like the jap /Kent because I can bake with skin on. I saw a pumpkin at the produce market that looked like a qld blue with warts all over it. Apparently it was a French variety.

 

[Teila]

Good morning folks

Hey Anniebee regarding the ‘???’s’ on your ovation to my post about Martyn’s .. was I confusing you with someone else mentioning they did not like to order online? Apologies if that was the case.

LuckysMum the chook accommodations here are just called ‘the coop and run’; very unimaginative

Boy was it windy on Sunday and Monday here! The girls are definitely not fans of the wind and spent most of the time just veging under the gazebo with their Dad.

I did coax them out onto the lawn for a brief moment and the wind was that strong it knocked Blondie off her feet, I kid you not! Cilla was struggling to keep her balance and LuLu got blown sideways but still managed to stay upright. My neighbour is not a ‘proud gardener’ and just mows the lawn when absolutely necessary. I happened to look through the fence and see chicken feathers all over his lawn … good job he probably does not care

I thought Dusty was only going to do a soft moult this year as she normally moults in March and very hard, just on ready for basting and the roasting pan

A few weeks ago she dropped a few head feathers and a couple off her legs but nothing dramatic and I was pleased she was going to be spared the discomfort of a full hard moult … bzzzzzt, wrong! Saturday night she went to bed looking normal .. Sunday morning she had multiple bald patches with pin feathers .. here we go again, poor Dusty