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[Coram]

Ah. Ok, I didn't realise Cydectin was that ineffective. I'll stick to the levamisole based avitrol. They had just been wormed with levamisole. My worming regime is four times a year. The symptoms really have had me stumped. Thanks again for your help Fancychooklady.

 

[Fancychooklady]

Ah. Ok, I didn't realise Cydectin was that ineffective. I'll stick to the levamisole based avitrol. They had just been wormed with levamisole. My worming regime is four times a year. The symptoms really have had me stumped. Thanks again for your help Fancychooklady.

The head shaking and neck extending could be gapeworm and just one trearment won't work. As I said it could be any number of health issues as quite often the CRD symptoms are the first sign of trouble. I'd examine the bird thoroughly for any signs of mites , check inside the ears and get a torch to look down the throat. Keep the antibiotics up to them regardless. Coryza is the easiest one to diagnose because the birds smell like death , around the head and sinuses.

 

[appps]

So is there anything other than sour crop causes a spongy feeling crop?

 

[Fancychooklady]

So is there anything other than sour crop causes a spongy feeling crop?

Worms can cause symptoms very alike sour crop and there is also a condition called ' pendulous crop ' . We have seen many horse deaths here in tassie in the last month due to colic symptoms that are brought on by an overload of small strongyls. The moist conditions and strange weather patterns have made conditions perfect for the parasites. I would recommend that everyone rethink their worming programs and get ahead of the spring nasties.
Here's a link explaining pendulous crop.

http://www.the-chicken-chick.com/2016/02/pendulous-crop-in-backyard-chickens.html

 

[Fizzybelle]

Worms can cause symptoms very alike sour crop and there is also a condition called ' pendulous crop ' . We have seen many horse deaths here in tassie in the last month due to colic symptoms that are brought on by an overload of small strongyls. The moist conditions and strange weather patterns have made conditions perfect for the parasites. I would recommend that everyone rethink their worming programs and get ahead of the spring nasties.
Here's a link explaining pendulous crop.

http://www.the-chicken-chick.com/2016/02/pendulous-crop-in-backyard-chickens.html

You recommended Levimasole as a good wormer, is there another type of wormer that's just as good to alternate with, so as parasites don't build up a tolerance?

 

[Fancychooklady]

You recommended Levimasole as a good wormer, is there another type of wormer that's just as good to alternate with, so as parasites don't build up a tolerance?

Avitrol plus has levamisole hydrochloride and praziquantel and then there are wormers that are just levamisole hydrochloride , so you could use one and then the other at the next worming.. Piparazine whilst only treating round worms , could be used as a rotational wormer.

 

[Fizzybelle]

Avitrol plus has levamisole hydrochloride and praziquantel and then there are wormers that are just levamisole hydrochloride , so you could use one and then the other at the next worming.. Piparazine whilst only treating round worms , could be used as a rotational wormer.

Ok then, thank you. Piparazine might be worth getting, as round worms are the only ones I've noticed my girls have had so far.


I'm currently a little concerned my Australorp hybrid Ada is a little underweight due to her prominent breast bone. She was wormed with avitrol tablets almost 2 months ago, so I will worm her again as it's almost due, and now that the days are getting warmer. I'll also weigh her again, she was about 2kgs last time. I'm thinking it might be due to her not eating as much of the layer mix and pellets as the others do. She much prefers to eat grass and forage for whatever she can dig up around/under trees and bushes. She free ranges all day, everyday in our backyard since there's usually someone home, and rushes over for treats (loves peas, corn, tomato, cauliflower, bread, rice ect) so she still loves to eat ( I nearly trip over her and the others if I have food on me, they corner me), and is otherwise healthy. Excluding parasites, would this most likely be due to her food preferences and the amount of frequent exercise she gets, since shes not pent up in a run all day, and could she do with some extra protein for muscle?

I feed them Jenco 16% layer mix and Watson and Williams layer crumbles (only pellets they will eat as they have been crushed up to suit the preferences of particularly precious little hens).

 

[Fizzybelle]

Ok, this is for anyone who's up atm. Just let my girls out and my pekin Esme is not well and I will call the vets as soon as they open at 8am to get her in. Visibly looks fine, however crop has not fully emptied and feels a little firm. Upon checking her droppings it is FULL of grit and dirt. Poo is normal in texture and appearance otherwise. Is my guess correct in that she's eaten something bad and is trying to get rid of the obstruction herself by eating a lot of grit? She seemed quiet yesterday evening, but not enough that I thought she was unwell, it just seemed like she was enjoying the afternoon by relaxing. I'll get Ada checked out as well, and weighed. I'm guessing Esme's in for a bit of rough time unfortunately

Mini update: Made the appointment, and checked her crop after, it had finally emptied, and after disturbing her she's come out to graze with the others and is eating grass, I am watching what she eats though.

 

[sjturner79]

Ok, this is for anyone who's up atm. Just let my girls out and my pekin Esme is not well and I will call the vets as soon as they open at 8am to get her in. Visibly looks fine, however crop has not fully emptied and feels a little firm. Upon checking her droppings it is FULL of grit and dirt. Poo is normal in texture and appearance otherwise. Is my guess correct in that she's eaten something bad and is trying to get rid of the obstruction herself by eating a lot of grit? She seemed quiet yesterday evening, but not enough that I thought she was unwell, it just seemed like she was enjoying the afternoon by relaxing. I'll get Ada checked out as well, and weighed. I'm guessing Esme's in for a bit of rough time unfortunately

Mini update: Made the appointment, and checked her crop after, it had finally emptied, and after disturbing her she's come out to graze with the others and is eating grass, I am watching what she eats though.

If the vets don't find anything and she's not fine tomorrow get her some molasses. It is great for helping them clear obstructions in the digestive system.

 

[appps]

Ok, this is for anyone who's up atm. Just let my girls out and my pekin Esme is not well and I will call the vets as soon as they open at 8am to get her in. Visibly looks fine, however crop has not fully emptied and feels a little firm. Upon checking her droppings it is FULL of grit and dirt. Poo is normal in texture and appearance otherwise. Is my guess correct in that she's eaten something bad and is trying to get rid of the obstruction herself by eating a lot of grit? She seemed quiet yesterday evening, but not enough that I thought she was unwell, it just seemed like she was enjoying the afternoon by relaxing. I'll get Ada checked out as well, and weighed. I'm guessing Esme's in for a bit of rough time unfortunately

Mini update: Made the appointment, and checked her crop after, it had finally emptied, and after disturbing her she's come out to graze with the others and is eating grass, I am watching what she eats though.

No.1 keep her off the grass and on Soft foods for a few days till you know for sure the obstruction has moved. If there is a blockage in there grass which has been found inside Carl's blocked crop twice during surgery is not something you want to add to it at the moment.

No.2. If you see she is still eating dirt the obstruction hasn't moved, that's always an early sign Carl's crop is blocked. keep her away from dirt and just give her a small amount of food that has been moistened with water first so is more easily digested. A day of no food won't hurt her so keep it small to assist that crop to empty and not get compacted.