Australia - Six states..and that funny little island.

[Fancychooklady]

I am currently being bothered by our house Pekin "Silvery". Someone gave me this - and I quote - 5 week old female Pekun bantam. He has huge wattles lol, I'm pretty sure it's a boy and certainly not 5 weeks old.

He is very attached to me keeps trying to make a nest in my hair, and makes a great try to escape to get to me when he can see me in the house lol.

Oh, the boys are always the sweetest.

 

[satay]

Thanks Fancy .....

I am thinking seriously about going over to Avitrol for my birds, who do not like the 'pink' stuff I put in their drinking water.   I have to measure, subtract the little that has been drunk, re-introduce - chuck a major hissy fit, and finally leave the pink stuff ( liquid Aristopet - levamisole hydrochloride appropriately dlluted )  in there for 36 hours.  

NO withholding period for eggs ...........  7 > 10 days for meat.   

Of course, in winter that doesn't work even more so.   After that, having NO idea as to whether they are wormed or not ( even though I use non-toxic  child friendly markers, to mark the ruddy water container !!! ) I leave it.   "Hope you  have been wormed ladies - here's a treat".        

I am actually hoping someone can help me, with a worming solution that I can put ON food ... actual rice, oats and other goodies .... for each chicken.   That way, I would ruddy-well know they are wormed.

Each girl would get a good  tablespoon of goodies to eat ... although there is often a rucus if the two big girls cannot eat together.    Locking one up with food, and leaving one out in the run with food, makes for a whole lot of protest, shrieks and noise.    With little eaten.   !!!   

Have I spoiled them ? .........    Of course, I could stand out in the run with them ( probably in the rain ) and observe while they eat the ruddy lot.   Which could take more than an hour  ???, particularly if the two big girls are upset at not being able to share their goodies, and eat them together. 

Worming chookies gives me the whatsits.   Help !! ... if possible.   I know there has been much conversation on here about worming mixtures / tablets etc. .... just don't have the time to scroll back through hundreds of posts to find answers.  

Lazy me ?   

........ AB   

There is no way i could do tablets with the amount of chickens i have. I use a wormer in the water while telling them your not getting any more til its gone. i can be more stubborn than they can luckily for me mine aren't too fussy and will just drink it right up most of the time.

 

[satay]

Not much to update for me today. My last hatch is doing well. Sorry no pics yet but have spent the week so far going to nursing homes with a neigbour who's dad has been diagnosed with dementia and can no longer stay at home. We have 2 more left to look at today. Problem living out here is it is an hour to most homes and we need to look at a lot and get his name down at as many as we can as the waiting lists are really long. BB is still the same no worse no better.

 

[Fancychooklady]

There is no way i could do tablets with the amount of chickens i have. I use a wormer in the water while telling them your not getting any more til its gone. i can be more stubborn than they can luckily for me mine aren't too fussy and will just drink it right up most of the time.

Yeah mine are quite happy to drink the levamisole , I can't imagine administering tablets. The avitrol plus liquid isn't cost effective for large flocks although I did see a litre pack at riverbend poultry . I have 3x chicks hatched and more pipping this morning. Looks like LG might be doing the job after all, 2 of them are coro's. He must be very stealthy as I've never seen him so much as look at the girls. Very happy to say that after introducing ' Benny ' the rapist to the splash silkie girls, that he has been very well behaved and the girls like him. There will be some very pretty chicks from this group.

 

[Coram]

I withold water for half a day, then introduce the liquid avitrol. I sweeten it with cordial or sugar. They seem to all drink with no problems. Peafowl will not go near it though. I put the tablets in bread for them.

 

[appps]

Silkiechickstar, I use the Avitrol tablets and generally don't withhold food, actually I hide the tablet inside a kernel of corn or inside a pea ect. Ensures it goes down the correct way, as prying open the beaks of stubborn birds is not easy. I've not had a problem with it. The use of the Avitrol tablets for poultry is off-label, I found this link very helpful personally, as an emailed response from the manufacturer regarding giving the tablets to poultry is also available to read. I hope that helps.

http://forum.backyardpoultry.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7995483

I give my large birds who are 2kilo's each, 2 tablets, then 1/2 to a whole one for the bantams. It's made worming soooooo much easier.

 

Well finally dosed them. Was way easier than the liquid which I've never been able to get them to touch even with taking water away early the day before.

The dosage is all a bit confusing. I ended up giving the smaller birds 1.5 tablets and the big australorps 2.5 tablets. My faverolles weighed in at 2.25kg (great to see Carl over 2kg again) so the big Aussies would be closer to 3kg (they were too big to see the reading on the scale)

Now I'm not trying to juggle birds and fight off the greedy ones and do the math in my head 750g -1kg says 1.5 tablets so the big Aussies would be 4 1/2 tablets which is a lot more than everyone is suggesting?

Do you all repeat (doesn't say to on the bottle) or withhold the eggs? (Says no withholding for the liquid lavamisole)

 

[Fancychooklady]

Well finally dosed them. Was way easier than the liquid which I've never been able to get them to touch even with taking water away early the day before.

The dosage is all a bit confusing. I ended up giving the smaller birds 1.5 tablets and the big australorps 2.5 tablets. My faverolles weighed in at 2.25kg (great to see Carl over 2kg again) so the big Aussies would be closer to 3kg (they were too big to see the reading on the scale)

Now I'm not trying to juggle birds and fight off the greedy ones and do the math in my head 750g -1kg says 1.5 tablets so the big Aussies would be 4 1/2 tablets which is a lot more than everyone is suggesting?

Do you all repeat (doesn't say to on the bottle) or withhold the eggs? (Says no withholding for the liquid lavamisole)

Yes, you need to give a follow up dose 10-14 days later. I dose with piparazine and then follow up with levamisole , killing all of the roundworm ( if there is a burden ) at once can obstruct the birds bowel and kill them. Withholding is anywhere between 7-14 days. Even if it says no withholding , as with piparazine we still don't eat the eggs for at least a week.

http://www.vetnpetdirect.com.au/AVIT#.V5q8eNQmKh8

 

[MullyAly]

Anniebee - I use BigL liquid 100ml diluted in 2L of water (1L is about $35). I used this as recently as yesterday morning and noticed worms had already been passed in fresh excrement last night. It makes the water yellow and my girls have not expressed any issues with accepting it in the water. Active Constituents: Levamisole Hydrochloride 16g/Kg, Witholding period: Meat: Pigs 3 da ys. Poultry 7 days. Eggs: nil, most effective against Round Worm in both pigs and poultry but also treats caecal and hair worm.

 

[MyHaven]

Yes, you need to give a follow up dose 10-14 days later. I dose with piparazine and then follow up with levamisole , killing all of the roundworm ( if there is a burden ) at once can obstruct the birds bowel and kill them. Withholding is anywhere between 7-14 days. Even if it says no withholding , as with piparazine we still don't eat the eggs for at least a week.

http://www.vetnpetdirect.com.au/AVIT#.V5q8eNQmKh8

I recently lost my bantam Australorp Banty.

I wormed her the day before with this.

 

[Fancychooklady]

I recently lost my bantam Australorp Banty.

I wormed her the day before with this.

Unfortunately if they have a large load of worms onboard there is always a risk. The piparazine is not a very powerful wormer and it's safer to use it first , kill the roundworms and then follow up with the levamisole product.