Australia - Six states..and that funny little island.

[sjturner79]

MyHaven ... that egg info is so very interesting, considering ...... 

My own 'best' vet Mark, phoned this evening in response to my call to him yesterday - he also was interested to see how Mandy is doing ( which is still better - slowly ). 

He believes the amount residual in eggs, two weeks after the end of a course, would be miniscule - he would eat them then.  The maximum amt would be during the course of the anti-biotics, and should not be touched..  Being allergic to penicillin I will not touch them for 4 weeks after the end of the course, but Neil can if he wants - after 2 weeks.   

That being said, he brought up the subject of commercial chickens, and that there are anti-biotics held 'by the gallon' and given ad hoc, to chickens with any form of whatever they might have.   A commercial egg producer, could not possibly segregate thousands of chickens to find out who has got what, so the whole danged lot would probably get
dosed.   Which would mean ( again presuming ) that the producer would not want to discard many thousands if not millions of eggs, during a with-holding period - which brings us back to your Vets' comment about  'eggs from commercial chickens can never be consumed'.   .... But - - perhaps they are ?       

Australia has a high reputation at this time, in keeping to low-grade antibiotics when needed, and not the very hefty f[COLOR=111111]luoroquinolones[/COLOR] used in other countries.   Those are used by vets, on prescription only, for dogs and cats only, here.   

Which brings us to Fancys' comments on several  occasions - about the incidence of anti-biotics in animals / birds and how damaging  that can be for our own health - ( in breeding super bugs ).  This is more than understandable, however, it leads to some very very conflicting advice ...  evidence by scientific studies ( Australia ),  one of which I read, and my head is reeling - did not end up with specific conclusions, as the use of anti-biotics by veterinarians, is still separate  to the use by breeders and food producers - as I understood it.   

Mark  also prefers ivermectin, which is not listed for chickens but used on cattle and orally for sheep, but does a very worthwhile job ( he said ) in treating for worms, red mites, and a variety of other nasties that chickens can be besieged with ( and there are many  ).   A drop or two on their backs - onto the skin, will be absorbed quickly - and the treatment is over and done with.   A lot better than tearing ones' hair out, while waiting for their chickens to drink pink levamisole water - and them flatly refusing to do so.  But I will be cautious about that.   He is not ( yet ) an avian specialist, but has had to study and take a greater interest recently in chickens especially, as more people, in these outer areas particularly, are involved in producing at least their own eggs.    Many more backyard chickens in this neck of the woods.  

....... the food colouring on vents is an excellent idea ... will try that on Molly only --- perhaps paint it on with a cotton bud - she would barely know it was happening.

....... not good news that you can no longer eat mangoes.   How strange that a fruit like that could cause bowel obstruction.  One would think they might have the opposite effect.:/

Cheers .......  

On the commercial layers, they usually don't treat the problem, but shutdown the line and sell or destroy the birds and restock.

However since doxycycline is used as a prophylactic antibiotic in many species, I wouldn't be surprised if many commercial layers are given it consistently to prevent possible problems, and the eggs would just be sold as normal.

 

[kat79]

I am concerned about one of the eggs that one ailkie us sitting on. Even though she is isolated from the others one eggs shell has a what looks like a dents and is cracked... i dont think it has broken into where the baby is but still worried about infections getting into the little thing inside. I am expecting probably a blood ring will appear now that the egg shell is broken...whats the chances this little embryo survival rate with a cracked shell?

 

[satay]

Finally caught up. My charming isp decided to upgrade our satalite plan to the new nbn on tuesday. New dish modem etc and the stupid thing has not worked since. Grr. Apparently now i have to wait til monday to see if it's fixed so for now i only have the small amount of net on my phone. Welcome tp the newbies

. Ash great pic of your new goat, fancy great pic of your daughter. Hope she had a great birthday. Anni glad to hear your girl seems to be improving.

 

[LuckysMum]

Hi everyone, haven't been on since the end of July so busy. Just thought I'd catch up on some reading but there were over 400 posts so it will be slow going. I hope everyone (including chickens pets etc) are all doing well.
I've hatched another 10 chicks, bantam australorps, light sussexs, leghorn and some cross pekin and bantam australorps, hoping to get some females this time. Every light Sussex I get is a male.
I've just given away one more and 6 Isa's. My nephew had a dilemma he has 60 chooks and he's moving house. So my husband is going down south tomorrow to see how many he can pick up. Its supposed to be 20 pure bred (some he has imported). But chicken math at work it may be as many as 40. So we have been busy building and fencing. Some will have to be rehomed but we'll see. I am posting some pictures I don't even know what some of them are. But I'm very excited the original 20 are hand reared and his pets.

 

[appps]

Finally caught up. My charming isp decided to upgrade our satalite plan to the new nbn on tuesday. New dish modem etc and the stupid thing has not worked since. Grr. Apparently now i have to wait til monday to see if it's fixed so for now i only have the small amount of net on my phone. Welcome tp the newbies

. Ash great pic of your new goat, fancy great pic of your daughter. Hope she had a great birthday. Anni glad to hear your girl seems to be improving.

Feel your pain, our NBN has been down since Thursday. They told me yesterday a new modem is being sent out so there is another week if it comes by Aus post. Getting by by hot linking into my phone occasionally but the kids are going crazy lol

 

[Luv1another]

ok It appears the pics didnt post lol so here are some pics of my flock


my two silkies, bigger baby is light sussex silkie cross little 4 day old is a araucana light sussex cross

light sussex and buff sussex and my belgium x pekin

my Pekin

My light sussex roo and father to the chicks

Plymouth rock

my araucana (mother of 4 day old chick) and one silkie in the rain...just a fun pic

polish frizzle

araucana dry

 

[SilkieChickStar]

I am still playing "who layed this egg" today

I heard the very loud "egg song" today but by the time I got outside the egg was in the nest and still have no idea who it was lol.

The egg song is new for me! My bantam Araucana goes about things so quietly.

My parrots also decided to join in when it happened so there was a great deal.of noise for about 5 minutes in my yard lol


Edit: I'm now thinking maybe it's actually Jemima The Silkies

 

[Fizzybelle]

So many wonderful photos LuckysMum and Luv1another! Gorgeous birds.

 

[SilkieChickStar]

@luckysmum and @Luv1another

Beautiful chickens! I love looking at all these beautiful photos.

 

[Anniebee]

No, we'll keep you! We're kind of used to you

Aww ... gee thanks MyHaven. I get into a bit of trouble at times, cos I often say too much !!

...........

Your chicken - I mentioned was a good size ... ( not as big as an Orp you said ) ... makes me wonder now, if Mandy is as big as I have always thought she was. !!

People who have chickens have remarked at her 'huge' size ... but then I know one has silkies and araucanas, and another has bantams, and one with leghorns and isas.

Guess compared to them Mandy is indeed big.

What breed is that gorgeous grey chicken shown in the photo ?

Cheers ....