Australorps breed Thread

[aveca]

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Will do.. Im hoping to be able to get enough in to sell a few if they want to pick them up or I could send out some eggs a little later on.once we get ours set, They wouldnt be very expensive at this point because we are laying the foundation befor we shut it down and close the flock (no more from outside )..Im wanting to set mine when I get the eggs from AZ..we are still a work in progress but hopefully in a few year will be really producing some all around top quailty birds..Cant wait to get out to the shows again this next year, want to go to twin tiers and cobeskill shows..
I have some coming from hupp farms (eggs) hes got some real nice blue australorps as well, he wants to get people involved in getting the standard to recognise the blues so help him out guys..his web address is in here and you can also see some of his winning birds there names are Chet and Berta..huppfarms, and [email protected]

Im going to work on the blacks for a while and get them the way I want then I might dabble in the blues.. But I want to be really consistant in good quality blacks first..Im really excited about this first hatch, we are doing a test hatch befor too long.soon as the hupp eggs get here. some of mine in with hupps..he just got a few new young show birds, impressive...they shoud be really nice this year..very excited to get a few eggs out of them..

 

[tigercreek]

Aveca,
Please add me to you egg list! Beautiful birds and I really like your breeding philosphy that production should be very high on the list of must have chartisterices. Not ready for eggs yet, but hopefully I will be by the time you have some to share! thanks ..........stan

 

[call ducks]

Ok, so there is one person on another forum that is saying " Point of interest, Australorps should not have a blue gene in them if they are pure Australorps" i just have to see what you guys/gals think about it? i myself consider them Australorps even if they are not yet in the SOP. But what do you think?

 

[tigercreek]

As I understand it, they may have a small point. To get blue, breeders are out crossing to blue orpingtons, so they may be techinally correct, but Australorps, and most other breeds were developed from a combination of other breeds anyway, so who is to say when the outcrossing door must be closed to keep a breed 'pure'. Just the opinion of a rookie!! ..stan

 

[aveca]

I personally only breed blacks..

Blues are inducted into the SOP in Australia also whites.
One of the best books written is by Ray connor called the Australorps.17 time australian national champion He doesnt beleive in breeding blues or any other color, he said there is no blue that can beat a black in competition, one feather with a little brown allows the black to win every time, a bit about adding orpington to get those colors which is correct foundation breed also used time to time in blacks but too much can introduce too loose a feather wich is a big no no in australia, a tight feather is a requirement of australorps.. but there are some nice blues and they do well amongst each other but never do better than black australorps. I highly recomend that book it gives advise to both beginner and experts and everyone can take away lessons from the book .

By breeding into and back out of really good orpingtons would correct a lot of tail problems in this country with australorps. without getting too carried away and loosing the tight feathered bird that is a required

 

[call ducks]

Ok cool cool, Even though good black stock can intoduce good shape to blues etc.

 

[aveca]

by stock do you mean orps? you can use whatever you need that is a correct foundation bird to work on a color project. careful and make sure to breeding back to the regular australorps keep the tight feathering

There are a few people working on deleware project, they took these unbelievable german new hampshires and bred back to show barred rocks, got a national champion right out of the gate. Couldnt beleive my eyes, one of the best looking birds I have ever seen.

 

[call ducks]

i am allways going to have blacks in my Blue/Splash breeding program, i know that blacks have best shape/colour

 

[Eglyntine]

I would think that as long as the bird held all of the same traits, i.e. temperament, production, shape, quality as the original breed and the only thing that was different was the colour it would be still be considered a purebred Australorp. Especially if you were using a HQ foundation breed used in the original Australorp line to change that colour. Like previous ppl stated, Orps were the base breed here to start with and using them again to help with colouring should not be an issue as long as you do not introduce too much as to where it changes the overall traits of the Australorp breed.

Of course whether it is accepted in Shows or considered SQ standard that is entirely different and until you get enough interested parties to petition for it it will not matter if you come up with a rainbow coloured Australorp it will never be considered a "purebred" by any association. But that is something totally different in my book. This of course is coming from someone who is trying to make a new colour of Wyandotte using the Australorp, specifically for all the traits and colouring of the standard. I love the green in Black Australorps and that is something I am counting on in my breeding stock.

 

[cubalaya]

a young one

couple of hens

i have not seen a really good rooster pic on here. the pic of the hen mathilda near the begining of the thread is the way i think the hens should look. that is a heritage hen?