Ayam Cemani

[boykin2010]

I have the Svart Hona (Swedish Black Hen) and I have never hatched any that had white. They are always solid black

 

[Chambertin]

That would make sense because the White on Black is valuable in my old part of China.
That trait is selectively re-bred into the flock to try and get as many as possible.
Some breeders are even trying to make a flock where every chicken has those traits with no grey or black spotting.

With the Ayam Cemani being praised for the purest of pure black I highly doubt the true bird would ever produce a white offspring of any kind. However I have never been to Java.

 

[sunsetvalley]

Here are some update pictures of the chick with white. There 10 days old today. All the eggs looked the same the pink colored eggs same size within a few grams. I also got them from Toni Marie off ebay the first listing of hers. Let me know what you guys think!!

 

[dutchbunny83]

Here are some update pictures of the chick with white. There 10 days old today. All the eggs looked the same the pink colored eggs same size within a few grams. I also got them from Toni Marie off ebay the first listing of hers. Let me know what you guys think!!

These can't be pure Ayam Cemani's they have yellow on their feet and beaks. A true one will be 100% black down to the tongue.

 

[dutchbunny83]

I have the Svart Hona (Swedish Black Hen) and I have never hatched any that had white. They are always solid black

Do you have any pics, I'd love to see them!
Someone was talking about the Svart Hona on another thread saying people were selling them as Ayam Cemani's for huge amounts of money because they look similar?
I don't know I'm about to google them now to see what they look like.
They sound pretty!!!


Oh I want one!!! Just looked them up. Hopefully they are easier to obtain than the Ayam Cemani which at this price will have to remain my dream chicken....

 

[boykin2010]

Do you have any pics, I'd love to see them!
Someone was talking about the Svart Hona on another thread saying people were selling them as Ayam Cemani's for huge amounts of money because they look similar?
I don't know I'm about to google them now to see what they look like.
They sound pretty!!!


Oh I want one!!! Just looked them up. Hopefully they are easier to obtain than the Ayam Cemani which at this price will have to remain my dream chicken....

Well, as far as I know I am the only person in the US to have true Svart Honas. They are just as black as the Ayam Cemani. The Svarts (Swedish Black Hens) are a little less "gamey" in appearance and weigh a little bit more on average than a Cemani. Also, I have noticed the eggs from my Svarts are solid white, while Cemani lay light pink/brown eggs.
I have heard the Svart Honas are supposed to be more cold hardy than the Ayam Cemani, but I live in South GA, and it is frequently over 100 degrees. My Svart's seem to be as comfortable as one can get in those high temps. They certainly do not pant as much as my English Orpingtons.

I took some pictures of some young chicks that I just hatched... They are really blurry for some reason though, so I am going to need to go look at my camera and see why.

 

[dutchbunny83]

I just saw your other thread on them in a search for them, they are gorgeous!!!

 

[Toni-Marie]

OK I see that some people need to be educated when it comes to the Cemoni. This is Toni Marie. For the sake of knowing everyone Yes you can get a acassional white skin chick(about 5%). NO it does not mean they are mixed or cross with what ever.. And yes they can and do have white on them as chicks like every other black bird. Yes you can get diff degrees of skin color. You can get anything from a purpleish color, to black,and to grey like. The best Quality ones like the guy at cemoni farms says those are the blackest black ones. he also has regular quality witch is the ones I have but I also have the best quality ones he talks about. I have in know way sold anything crossed. They are " as is" when I got them. They are a land race fowl and are not breed for anything else but meat color.There fore the diff sizes. The blackest of black ones have been breed for many generations. So if anyone has any other questions you can ask me. Everyone in the Poultry world can tell you I have always breed and helped many many people with birds and most of the time I never even charged for them. So is there anything you want to talk to me about? Im here. I think people should know everything about the birds..Most people have the misconception that chicks are all black..NOT some like I said are black and white chick down and even have A few Juvie white feathers as chicks but molt it out by adulthood. Now that they are here to stay us Americans will do all kinds of things to them to Americanize them..Thats to bad. Like I was saying before they are a land race fowl. I have had these birds for about 6 years now. I do try to breed from only the darkest birds but you will get a degree of darkness... If you want to know something just ask. Many thanks. Toni-Marie. PS Sunvally the chicks in the pic are tipical Cemoni chicks although most seem to be darker..

 

[Toni-Marie]

Yes I know the guy. He is a very nice person. I also live in Ga... The Cemoni han handle the hot but im not sure about the cold..?

 

[Toni-Marie]

I noticed you only show the ones with white up close. why is that? TM