Baby needs culled. Not mine, can't do it. Now what???

[onthespot]

maybe you would find this link helpful... It gives detailed instructions on how to make a home made humane euthanasia chamber out of baking soday, vinegar and some tubing, a plastic bag and a small container. This method is considereed humane by the vet association. They have done tests, including heart rate, breathing and hormones in the bloodstream during euthanasia and if done properly the animal goes to sleep. Good for animals under two pounds, NOT SUITABLE FOR DOGS, per the author.

http://www.alysion.org/euthanasia/

 

[luvmychicknkids]

LOL....she has her moments.

And she is mom.

I may try talking to her about it tomorrow but I am almost 100% certain I know what she will say. Who knows, maybe she will surprise me.

If I didn't feel like it was suffering I would just wait it out, but it really seems so miserable.

 

[mamaKate]

You're 100% right about the need to cull the chick, but I have to disagree about it being your fault. Your mom sounds like a great person. She's your mom not your daughter and she gets to make her own decisions and deal with the consequences her way. If we want to talk ethics, the same thought process that keeps us from deciding to end the life of a fellow human and then authorizes euthanasia for animals would dictate that animal life (and its entailed suffering) is less valuable than a that of a human. In any case, it's your mom's pet now and therefore her decision. Please try to let the weight slip from your shoulders. I'm a serious control freak, too, so I know how hard that can be.

 

[LilDucky85]

With time and some special care cant it be cured? Or is this not for Chickens.....?

http://www.2ndchance.info/spraddle.htm

 

[nzpouter]

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Don't ever do that, freezing is not a humane method to kill an animal, you better off picking it up and throwing it against a wall.

 

[Fay at Frizzled Feathers]

I would just talk to her and tell her how you feel the chickie is so miserable , then let her make the decission . I know its hard to stand back and do nothing at times but at certain times its best.

Hope that helps some

Fay

 

[Akane]

Stick it in the freezer for a few minutes when your mom is gone. It'll simply fall asleep and die.

Why don't you try it yourself and see how it goes. This is an absolutely horrible way to die. They don't just fall asleep. Hypothermia is painful and causes aches through the whole body. I've suffered frostbite and mild hypothermia before. Extremities feel like they are on fire before you completely lose feeling which is a rather sickening feeling. While you may not thrash and fight when freezing to death it's nothing short of slow torture. Completely inhumane. We just don't see it cause the critter is locked behind a freezer door. Also many times when people suggest this method for a fish or small mammal they also say don't open the door for 30mins or more. If it can take 30mins or more to die then it's obviously very stressful.

If your mom wants to try and save this chick who are you to interfere? If it's really doing that poorly no amount of care will keep it alive forever. If it has a chance and she's willing to accomodate any problems it has the rest of it's life then it's her choice to try and give it an acceptable life. Quality of life is a matter of opinion and what suffering is worth living is a matter of opinion. Unfortunately the animals can't tell us what they think so it ends up having to be our opinion. You cannot say for certain you are right and she is wrong so since the chick is hers now you should let her decide. I would simply speak my concerns and wait for her decision.​

 

[KattyKillFish]

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Why don't you try it yourself and see how it goes. This is an absolutely horrible way to die. They don't just fall asleep. Hypothermia is painful and causes aches through the whole body. I've suffered frostbite and mild hypothermia before. Extremities feel like they are on fire before you completely lose feeling which is a rather sickening feeling. While you may not thrash and fight when freezing to death it's nothing short of slow torture. Completely inhumane. We just don't see it cause the critter is locked behind a freezer door. Also many times when people suggest this method for a fish or small mammal they also say don't open the door for 30mins or more. If it can take 30mins or more to die then it's obviously very stressful.

If your mom wants to try and save this chick who are you to interfere? If it's really doing that poorly no amount of care will keep it alive forever. If it has a chance and she's willing to accomodate any problems it has the rest of it's life then it's her choice to try and give it an acceptable life. Quality of life is a matter of opinion and what suffering is worth living is a matter of opinion. Unfortunately the animals can't tell us what they think so it ends up having to be our opinion. You cannot say for certain you are right and she is wrong so since the chick is hers now you should let her decide. I would simply speak my concerns and wait for her decision.

i agree with the 2nd post ENTIRELY! even just the beginnings of hypothermia are terrible. the uncontrollable shivering, the soreness and exhaustion loss of feeling in the limbs. what a cruel way to go! i would NEVER let ANY animal go this way. putting a chick in the freezer is inhumane, wrong and VERY painful for the chick. YOU try sitting in a freezer for a few hours with no protection from the cold! YOU try dying tortuously! it's AWFUL!

 

[jaku]

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I agree- while I would personally cull my own bird, in the mind of someone who doesn't believe in euthanasia, doing it behind her back, you'd basically be killing her pet simply because you thought it didn't deserve to live. If you can't convince her that it needs to be done, then the bird will just have to suffer. Relationships with people come first IMO.

 

[luvmychicknkids]

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Thanks for posting that, and yes, spraddle leg can be fixed in chickens. I already pretty much solved her spraddle leg problem, though. I would NEVER think a chick should be put down for spraddle leg. Her problems are so much worse than that. Right now, at 4 weeks old, she is only a tiny bit bigger than she was when she hatched. She twitches, can't stand without assistance (NOT because of her legs), can't eat on her own because she can't support her head and get the food, can't even hold her head back to drink properly. She cries non-stop, and is forced to be alone in a box with a stuffed animal because there is no chick that doesn't hurt her.

As for freezing, I want to make sure everyone knows I NEVER indicated I think this is an acceptable method of euthanasia. I do not tolerate cold well. A few minutes of being too cold and I start shivering uncontrollably and have even started vomiting......I would never subject ANYTHING to freezing to death....certainly not this innocent little chicken who has already suffered so much.

And finally, you can rest assured this has nothing to do with me thinking she does not deserve to live.

I think she deserved to be a healthy little chick with the same potential for a long life as all the rest. Unfortunately, she is not. This has to do with the desire to end the suffering of this tiny, innocent creature who can't choose that for herself. I think all life is very valuable and I think nothing should have to suffer when there is NO HOPE for recovery. I have had animals (chicks and otherwise) that most would have given up on, but because I felt there was hope, I tried. Sometimes I failed, many times I did not. I have NEVER had a chick I thought needed put down until now.

Doing this would not be lying to her, she would never ask. I know she wouldn't be shocked if she came home and found it didn't make it. She would be relieved. She simply can't make the decision to let its suffering end.

Anyway, just wanted to make sure everyone understands, I am just trying to make the most humane choice I can. I always do. Haven't decided anything, yet. Perhaps nature will be kind and make the decision for me today.

Thank you to all who have posted.