Seeing how I was the cause of the recent unpleasantness and guessing that A1mom might not read this thread again anytime soon I PM'ed her, and explained the rational behind my position on the subject. With the education of other new comers I thought I'd go ahead and post parts of that message here as well.
[ I have been on a crusade as it were, to educate people on proper color and pattern names, mostly as a result of some folks crossing up breeds and then trying to hang a fanciful name on them to promate sales of their new "creation".
The use of red and lemon pyle names is commonly misused in Europe, and they use the name on a couple different patterns. A true pyle colored bird contains dominant white, which in effect turns all parts of the feather that would normally be black to white. Being a dominant trait, it only takes one copy of the gene to show itself in a bird. Recessive white on the other hand requires two copies to show, and turns the entire bird white.
What in fact the so called pyles in the Brahma breed, or so far as I know, are actually splash phase blue birds of either partridge(penciled), or columbian, patterns. You see blue is a diluter of black, A single copy of blue dilutes the black parts of a feather to a bluish grey color, If a bird receives two copies of blue those same parts are a washed out white, with possible specs of blue.
While pyle and splash may look similar at first glance, the are two very different colors.
One way to test which you have is breed it to a black patterned bird. If the resulting chicks are white trimmed,(if the pyle parent carries two copies of dominant white), or half white, and half black trimmed,(if pyle parent carries only one copy of dominant white), then you in fact have a pyle. But if breeding your pyle to a black gets you blue chicks then it is a splash, and should be called such.]
[ I have been on a crusade as it were, to educate people on proper color and pattern names, mostly as a result of some folks crossing up breeds and then trying to hang a fanciful name on them to promate sales of their new "creation".
The use of red and lemon pyle names is commonly misused in Europe, and they use the name on a couple different patterns. A true pyle colored bird contains dominant white, which in effect turns all parts of the feather that would normally be black to white. Being a dominant trait, it only takes one copy of the gene to show itself in a bird. Recessive white on the other hand requires two copies to show, and turns the entire bird white.
What in fact the so called pyles in the Brahma breed, or so far as I know, are actually splash phase blue birds of either partridge(penciled), or columbian, patterns. You see blue is a diluter of black, A single copy of blue dilutes the black parts of a feather to a bluish grey color, If a bird receives two copies of blue those same parts are a washed out white, with possible specs of blue.
While pyle and splash may look similar at first glance, the are two very different colors.
One way to test which you have is breed it to a black patterned bird. If the resulting chicks are white trimmed,(if the pyle parent carries two copies of dominant white), or half white, and half black trimmed,(if pyle parent carries only one copy of dominant white), then you in fact have a pyle. But if breeding your pyle to a black gets you blue chicks then it is a splash, and should be called such.]
