Bad feet, worse foot!!

[staceyj]

Wait. That right leg (her right) is much bigger than the left.
Is the whole leg swollen ?

 

[Eggcessive]

I am sure that is frostbite. The color change on her right foot may be that she will lose that foot. I would soak her feet daily in warm Epsom salts or Betadine Iodine in the water for around 20 minutes. Vetericyn is good to use after soaking. It can take weeks to know how bad the damage will be. Keep her inside on a clean towel.

 

[Eggcessive]

Here are some pictures of frostbite:

In this BYC picture, the dark portions will dry up and die, and toes eventually fall off.


In this link there are 3 pictures of a hen’s feet with the stages of frostbite, and after the loss of toes:
https://countrysidenetwork.com/daily/poultry/feed-health/chicken-frostbite-treatment-prevention/

 

[ChickenMomOh2]

Here are some pictures of frostbite:
View attachment 1677873
In this BYC picture, the dark portions will dry up and die, and toes eventually fall off.


In this link there are 3 pictures of a hen’s feet with the stages of frostbite, and after the loss of toes:
https://countrysidenetwork.com/daily/poultry/feed-health/chicken-frostbite-treatment-prevention/

Okay. I appreciate the help. I will continue the Epsom salt baths.. I don't have any of the other stuff. Can I use Bag Balm, or Vaseline?

 

[Cragg Klefor]

Is it possibly some type of contact dermatitis?? @Wyorp Rock ?

 

[staceyj]

Is it possibly some type of contact dermatitis?? @Wyorp Rock ?

That was why I asked about snowmelt chemicals, but the op said no.
And that purplish line of demarcation is so characteristic of frostbite, especially compared to the “example” photos posted....

 

[Eggcessive]

Okay. I appreciate the help. I will continue the Epsom salt baths.. I don't have any of the other stuff. Can I use Bag Balm, or Vaseline?

The only thing to be careful about if you use Bag Balm or any ointment is to not rub or massage the frostbitten skin, since it can cause more damage. I would try to get something that you can put in a spray bottle that has disinfectant properties, and those include Povidone Iodine, Hibiclens (chlorhexidene,) or Vetericyn Wound Spray. Both Iodine (called Equate First Aid Antiseptic) or the Hibiclens are in the first aid aisle at Walmart for around $6, and Vetericyn is sold in feed or pet stores. The first two can be weakened with water—follow directions.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

Okay, I need some help please, ASAP!! My little baby (less than a year) has a bad foot. I got a couple pictures of it. I cleaned her up, soaked in warm Epsom salt bath.. took a soft bristled tooth brush to the bottom of her foot to get the crud off and see if it was Bumblefoot(?) Well I dont think it is!
Its broken/ cracked all over the bottom. Swelled just above her ankle, you can see the "bloodline," I felt the temp and it is a little warmer than the other foot. Infection?? What do I do!?
Peroxide? Neosporin? Bag Balm? Clean wrap?
She is separated from the flock currently. I noticed her this morning (2-18-19) when I opened the coop door, she was closest and hobbled over to me faster than the others on her better foot. Please help!!

We live in Western Michigan. But they are in a warm coop. Got heat lamp going, keeps it pretty warm in there.

They dont go in the snow

They only have wood in the coop. Wood feeder, plastic waterer with a heat lamp on it so their coop is warm, and their water doesnt get cold. They have fresh bedding, soft pine shavings(chunky stuff) View attachment 1677804

Okay. I appreciate the help. I will continue the Epsom salt baths.. I don't have any of the other stuff. Can I use Bag Balm, or Vaseline?

I would have to go with frostbite too. The foot looks pretty severe, hopefully she will not lose the toes, but she might.
I agree with soaking, then applying Vetericyn. While bag balm, vaseline, etc. sound good, you don't want to be rubbing the feet, this is mainly the only reason why something like a spray is recommended.
Keep her on clean dry bedding. If you have her caged, then use puppy pads.

Is she eating/drinking well?
We each have our own methods and opinions. For something like this with such swelling and deadened tissue, personally I would administer antibiotics as well. Amoxicillin would be my first choice for this you can order it online https://www.revivalanimal.com/product/fish-mox?sku=22150-174
Alternatively, most feed stores like Tractor Supply carry Procaine Penicillin G which should be effective as well.

 

[Ninjasquirrel]

I posted in the original thread you asked this question about. Wanted to make sure you got it:
Oh my. You need to make sure your birds have a clean dry floor. She might recover but she might be handicapped after this. Heres what you need to do:

1. Remove from cold immediately and ensure the rest of your birds have clean and dry conditions
2. Soak her feet in epsom salts. Id recommended a half hour. Keep the water lukewarm not hot.
3. I'd recommend a salve or balm. You can buy Green Goo (i think thats the brand) or make your own: https://www.fresheggsdaily.com/2017/11/homemade-herbal-frostbite-salve-for.html?m=1. I would try aloe vera since its non toxic if you dont have either. Vetricyn would work as well.

She might lose a toe...or limb. It is important that you monitor for signs of infection. Best of luck to you and remember that prevention is key.

 

[ChickenMomOh2]

@Wyorp Rock
@Eggcessive
@Ninjasquirrel
@staceyj
Thank you, so much everybody for your thoughts and opinions. They are very helpful, and much appreciated.
Her foot was looking better this morning after I Epsom salt bathed her again. I did put some bag balm on her pad, I didnt rub it. I used a q-tip to apply it gently. I really hope she gets better. Still doesnt want to use her foot.. but I think I would have to agree about it being fostbite. Her toe tips, before the nail, have pieces of dry/dead skin. I will post more pictures later. She has her own cage with fresh bedding. She is eating and drinking well.