Banning Kids In Restaurants...

[punk-a-doodle]

I actually don't agree with an age ban in even upscale restaurants. I come from a family who moved around alot. I had fried squid in rome, hundred year eggs in Japan, and haggis in Scotland. The thought of missing out on traditional foods because some of them were at fancy restaurants (others came from corner shops and local grocers) is deeply saddening. I know from experience that even young children can be better behaved than adults. And no, it is not the job of random people to parent other people's kids in public. The owners of establishments have the right (and motivation...poor dining experiences means less business) to ask people being rude to leave.

And ew. Cigarettes make my scalp itch, skin break out, and eyes water something awful. You all are crazy for being able to sit within fifty feet of that. XD

 

[Avalon1984]

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I think it also has to do with what you expect. If you go to a family restaurant, there will be kids. No guarantee that they will behave. If you go to a bar, you have to put up with sports on TV and some hollering. Sadly the place we go to tries to combine both and it leads to a lot of tension between the bar crowd wanting to relax and watch TV and kids screaming their heads off a few tables down. I don’t know how many times I got up from the bar and had to help little kids find their way to the bathrooms because their parents don’t want to get up and show them, just like they won’t discipline them when silverware and food gets tossed all over the place. I must confess that my horses are my children. But if they act up I can punish them whichever way I see fit. They have impeccable manners in public and if they become too bothersome I can sell them and it is totally legal.

I am still working on their table manners though...

 

[Hangin Wit My Peeps]

As a kid if I or my brother had acted up in public we got spanked, immediately and very publicly

Now a days if you even talk about spanking your kids someone calls the police on ya! In my opinion if I see a kid acting up in, lets say walmart, and a parent wacks their butt, I think good for them for taking control and not letting them get away with that. Now a days kids get so darn spoiled it's insane...you send your kid to school and they tell you "mom, I want this game for WII (some grand theftauto game, can't remember) well on these games ppl are actually having sex in the back of a car?? Are you kidding me? And 6 yr olds are playing these games? WOW​

 

[desertdarlene]

I've heard the excuse "oh, he's just a baby, he can't help it" over and over. I agree, he's just a baby and if he's obviously not mature or ready enough to eat at certain types of restaurants or businesses, then don't take them there. I just don't get that some parents think that everyone has to tolerate certain behaviors just because they're kids. The parents should know where to take their kids and where they shouldn't. My parents used to leave us at home if they didn't think we could behave correctly in public. If more parents were like this, then this topic would be moot.

 

[Steve_of_sandspoultry]

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When did it become my place to change the behavior of others ill-mannered kids? I have many times asked people to curb their kids and you either get dumb looks or they get angry..... go figure.

Steve

Yep... wanna get punched in the face?? Go tell some butt-hole parent their kid is ill mannered...
Yeah... that would go over reeeal well. Do you even have ANY idea how many parents would flip out on you??

No, its NOT my responsibility to teach YOUR child manners and have a nasty scene in public.

Actually it's about 40/60 on the dumb looks to them getting angry. Either way it works

Steve

 

[easttxchick]

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When did it become my place to change the behavior of others ill-mannered kids? I have many times asked people to curb their kids and you either get dumb looks or they get angry..... go figure.

Steve

Agreed. I raised mine. Not my job to raise someone else's.

Gritty, I respectfully disagree with you here on a SMALL point. Nope, not my job to raise/discipline someone else's child UNLESS the parent refuse and it is directly impacting me/something that belongs to me.
I was at a poultry show in January where I was showing my Calls. Wild kid was running amuck in this place and EVERYONE was telling him to stop it, calm down, stop running, etc. He kept sticking his hands through the bars of my duck cages and I asked him POLITELY twice to stop-he was making them nervous. Third time, I didn't ask him to stop, I TOLD him to stop. Fourth time, I took him by the arm and made him show me where his parent were. I approached these people and told them to either control their child or be prepared to write me a LARGE check if something happened to one or more of my birds from this kid continuously bothering my birds. Didn't see the kid again all day. Just FYI-this kid was 10 years old-should have known better at that age.
Mess with the bull-you get the horns.

 

[ChickenAlgebra]

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No, I'll get up and leave if someone has uncontrolled children and the management doesn't do anything. I let the corporate know exactly why they are no longer getting my business.

I am sure the persons complaining are also the same ones who would pick up a stray cat or dog but never bother to pick up a finger to help a real person in need. Or they are the same persons who think their pets have personalities and are their "children"........but Im not gonna go there. Im just ranting.

I am very much against the uncontrolled children in public. I'll complain about it. I'll do what I can about it. But I do also have a foster kid at home because his parents threw him out. And no, my children are my children, the animals may be pets or may be working animals or may be food, but they aren't children. Heck, most of the chickens aren't even named.

I can't say I like the set a random age - but a rule of no screaming/unruly children is never a bad idea to me.

And parenting someone else's kid in public????? I can't even parent MINE in public without someone throwing a fit - and it's not my kids who are throwing the fit!​

 

[Avalon1984]

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You know what they say: “What doesn’t kill you…”

Just joking though. Everybody has different perceptions about cigarettes and people who smoke.

 

[gritsar]

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Agreed. I raised mine. Not my job to raise someone else's.

Gritty, I respectfully disagree with you here on a SMALL point. Nope, not my job to raise/discipline someone else's child UNLESS the parent refuse and it is directly impacting me/something that belongs to me.
I was at a poultry show in January where I was showing my Calls. Wild kid was running amuck in this place and EVERYONE was telling him to stop it, calm down, stop running, etc. He kept sticking his hands through the bars of my duck cages and I asked him POLITELY twice to stop-he was making them nervous. Third time, I didn't ask him to stop, I TOLD him to stop. Fourth time, I took him by the arm and made him show me where his parent were. I approached these people and told them to either control their child or be prepared to write me a LARGE check if something happened to one or more of my birds from this kid continuously bothering my birds. Didn't see the kid again all day. Just FYI-this kid was 10 years old-should have known better at that age.
Mess with the bull-you get the horns.

In a situation like that I feel like you were 110% in the right. I am very protective of my animals and I will speak up to ANYONE or anything that impacts them in a negative way. I am their voice.

 

[desertdarlene]

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Gritty, I respectfully disagree with you here on a SMALL point. Nope, not my job to raise/discipline someone else's child UNLESS the parent refuse and it is directly impacting me/something that belongs to me.
I was at a poultry show in January where I was showing my Calls. Wild kid was running amuck in this place and EVERYONE was telling him to stop it, calm down, stop running, etc. He kept sticking his hands through the bars of my duck cages and I asked him POLITELY twice to stop-he was making them nervous. Third time, I didn't ask him to stop, I TOLD him to stop. Fourth time, I took him by the arm and made him show me where his parent were. I approached these people and told them to either control their child or be prepared to write me a LARGE check if something happened to one or more of my birds from this kid continuously bothering my birds. Didn't see the kid again all day. Just FYI-this kid was 10 years old-should have known better at that age.
Mess with the bull-you get the horns.

In a situation like that I feel like you were 110% in the right. I am very protective of my animals and I will speak up to ANYONE or anything that impacts them in a negative way. I am their voice.

I wish I had your guts. I am constantly confronting kids and parents at the lake to get them to stop throwing rocks at or chasing the animals there. Parents get really nasty about it! I actually avoid going there at certain times because I get so anxious that I'm going to see an animal get killed or injured. And, I am not the game warden and shouldn't put my own health and safety at risk by doing this as I have no authority to get them to stop. Lake staff also aren't any help, either and there's not a regular game warden to enforce the rules there. I wish I had money to donate for a full-time game warden/ranger to this area.