Banning Kids In Restaurants...

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My children did (and do) have to learn how to behave in public.

They understand there are times in public in which they are expected to behave like ladies and gentlemen. If we are out to eat and there is a tablecloth - that behavior is REQUIRED from them. They can't behave appropriately, one of us parents will excuse the child and ourself, go outside and wait for the rest of the family who can behave to finish a meal, then go home. But they also don't get the priviledge of going out to a nice place until we know they CAN behave in a reasonable manner.

Which means while at McD's, there is a ball pit and they may run around like monkeys, they must first sit politely at the table, eat their meal without being disgusting (I have boys, does that say enough), and then they may be excused by an adult to go calmly to the play area, and they can play as children will do. You can't control yourself enough to behave to eat without bothering adults, you have not earned the priviledge to go play in the ball pit. Yes, all the kids have had to sit at the table while siblings played. If I had a penny everytime I've been called mean/meanie, I'd never have to work again.

We start with sitting for a meal at home, then to McD's, then to Pizza Hut, so on, so forth. My 3 y/o does not always have the patience to sit thru a full dinner at Olive Garden, however if she brings QUIET toys, she can sit next to me and be a child than no one outside the waiter or our family will know is there. I also know that OG is too much for her, and prepare ahead of time.

Because I choose to have the children, that means I in turn also must deal with the various obnoxious behaviors that children learn to not do. However, that does not mean I need to subject mass society to proof that my children can be vile, obnoxious hellions.

The sad part? 3 of the boys were being idiots in public at Walmart. I very calmly asked them "Boys, is this how gentlemen behave in public?" and right away, they all stopped and shaped up. They weren't being horrible, but I know them, and I knew the next step was shrieking and pushing siblings and wrestling. Someone fluffed up and got furious that I expected my babies to act like gentlemen, boys should just be boys.
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Yes, they can be boys, and wrestle, and shove each other into mud, and climb trees, and other generally stupid things boys do - but NOT in public when the rest of the world is exposed to them!

More so, teaching a child decent manners is hardly anything offensive.
 
Children are still learning and some of them learning badly as so many instances are being stated here. My issue is so many people who just jump on the bandwagon of "oh I hate that too" or "we didnt do that back in the good ole days". I remember the "good ole days" also. Where everyone had their place and knew to stay out of that part of town or that business or keep their mouth shut or follow the signs to where they were supposed to be....

IF these things are such an issue to everyone, stand up and tell the parents and/or the children that their behavior is inappropriate for a place of business. Its easy to get on a website and gripe and complain about this or that. If you dont like it, change it. I am a parent of young child and I also coach and teach young people for the last 15 years, I am sure someone will blame me and the education process for all of this too. So I do have experience with a wide range of young people. If I dont like someones behavior in a public place I do actually tell them. I was at the movies a few years back, teenagers behind me were talking constantly and being immature. I didnt like it, what did I do? I acted like an adult, stood up, turned around and told these young men I paid to watch the movie not hear their mouths running and that I and everyone else would appreciate it if they would shut up. Told them also that if it continued I would go get the usher to have them removed or get my money back. If you dont like it...change it. Stop complaining about it.

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Simply stated, I knew better. Eating out was such a treat when I was a kid(we weren't exactly wealthy) that we didn't want to get yanked out of a restaurant for acting like heathens.
Teaching responsibility has to start somewhere, of course, but as far as my parents were concerned, I wasn't going to be taught in a public place where others were spending hard earned money for an enjoyable evening out-it was at HOME!
 
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Oh, we've seen far far too often children who are obnoxious enough in public that even my kids of the same age or younger are SHOCKED that they behave in such a fashion.

That is one nice, abit rude, thing with a 3 y/o who has not quite yet learned to keep her voice down "Mommy!!! He's being REALLY bad!!!!" What can I say, my kid is smarter than the parents. And yes, I'll remind her to keep her voice down.
 
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I think the problem here is your statements referring to "ill-mannered" children. Not all children are raised to be ill- mannered and although many are not disclipined to have respect, I grant you, many are well behaved and have been taught right from wrong by their parents, sorry this has not been your experience. And comparing cigarettes to children is really ridiculous.
 
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I am sorry, but I also work and have worked with children. But it is never my duty to disciple your child in a public setting at anytime.
As for changing it, I am by purposing to limit children in specific places!
 
As a kid if I or my brother had acted up in public we got spanked, immediately and very publicly. In restaurants we would have to go sit outside and wait. Needless to say, we didn't act up much.

Now that I'm an "adult". No such constraints.
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I think the problem here is your statements referring to "ill-mannered" children. Not all children are raised to be ill- mannered and although many are not disclipined to have respect, I grant you, many are well behaved and have been taught right from wrong by their parents, sorry this has not been your experience. And comparing cigarettes to children is really ridiculous.

Never have I said ALL children are ill mannered, and as for the comparison, what is good for the goose is good for the gander....and I am saying that there should be limits on both for everyone's sake!
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