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Maybe it is not as portable as you like, but I have a projector set up by my incubator and it has worked fine for me for years. There is no problem seeing detail in any kind of egg. Maybe I have more space than you. Just put it out there as an option.

BTW: it works very well on BEI eggs and mine are pretty black. I can do a 100 eggs in minutes.

Walt

Well Linda, this might be the answer to your problem. I myself have plenty of space and *could* use this option, but with the old candler working it would be impractical for me. It's an idea to have in my back pocket anyway in case the Egg Lume croaks, unless Brinsea can bring that clever little device back online. But I think too, what you may have to do is going to be trial and error, and you may lose some eggs while you figure this out: when you see those guys jumping around in there, you might have to see how much time elapses between when you start seeing that and just wait it out and maybe try and narrow down the time it is you are losing them, so you can try to figure out a midpoint when you're going to try and go in after them. I know this sounds awful, and it certainly isn't an option I'd want for myself, but I'm thinking it's your only option until you can get something brighter to use and can see the process better in the egg, and be able to train your eye enough so that you know which have broken through and which haven't. I'd candle three times a day at this point when you are hand turning and try to narrow this time frame down. Some of them are sneaky and will look like they have popped the membrane, and upon opening a tiny bit of shell they haven't, and then I have had to go and put a hole in the membrane myself. Again, take a moment to see if the duckling will move, and then I try to locate the bill which is where I will make a tiny tear and try to gently widen it from there so that at least one nostril is clear. I don't let a tiny bit of blood scare me, but I do go slow and very gently. A tiny bit of blood from a capillary is not so bad, it's too much blood that you want to avoid.

duckluck, hey duckluck are you there, stop reading, and pay me some attention for a minute, duckluck, youuuuwhoooo,
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again call duckluck professor, do you not have a camera with a video mode on it, all basic cameras now days have video mode, or the dollar tree has the kiddy $9.99 little hand held ones, no the blood don't bother me, remember I am a nurse, I can come from surgery just holding your gut why the doc is playing and slinging intestine all over the dang place, with his Doors tunes playing wide open, LOL, and then wash up and go dig sh--tt that would gag a maggott, and wash up and go have a t-bone and potato, LOL. But I have had some that wasn't just a tiny capillary, and put it back in for a hour or so and go again. But you know a drop of blood looks like a hemmorrage,
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, well I lost my butterscotch, it was developing so nicely pretty pink veins, and when I candled it last night there is a big quarter size black spot and blood tinged broken rings around the top inside of the egg, so, oh well, I am for some reason starting off crummy already, for example, OH MY SWEET HEAVEN TO EARTH, okay, my candler bulb blew, so I ordered one, and seen a new digital flat but portable hanging humidity & thermometer, well then I seen the little replacement caps, I had cork in my styrophoam tops,
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:lau, so I order these, well I had ordered me some of those Lavender Orph eggs from a person on here, in georgia, not but per say 300 miles from me, well I raked and scraped selling a few duck eggs, and finally got some money up to buy me some, I be a monkeys butt, out of per say 8 that I got, 7 were clear, and one darn went to oozing and stunk, well I got upset, because, I would not thought I would have been done this way by that person, so I emailed her and told her, and her response was, "You know I can ship to CA, and the buyers egg gets there safe and all hatch, but when I ship locally or close there is always, broken eggs or they don't hatch, Why is that you recand, she stated, OH HEAVENS TO BETSY, I don't give a darn about why or USPS, or nothing else except I had to scrape to get that money up, and I candled them there wasn't even a dead germ in them, nothing solid CLEAR, but to know I spent that much money with her on those eggs, and that was my response, so throwed them out to the pigs, and I have raked and scraped and sold some more eggs, and bought me another round of them from another person on ebay, me and her became friends while I was getting up some money to get me some more, THOSE THINGS ARE LIKE DIAMONDS, so, I get my incubator all washed from last duck hatching, and sterlized, plugged it up a styrophoam hova genesis, and can't get above 80 degress, my eggs will be here the next day or after, call GQF, spoke with technitian support, he is sending me new fan and temp replacer, well I have back up last spring hova wafer set, so okay, other hova genisis had goose egg and turkey egg and well there was 8 eggs, still not hatched, so, just to be safe cranked up the wafer smooth running, time passes by, went out side to rake out pot of left overs to the critters in the yard, come back my answering machine is blinking, Hi Mrs. Zeagler, this is FedEx and I am at a RV back in the woods somewhere and this address is on your package, but I don't know where you live, this looks abandoned, so okay thankyou, OMG, I am boiling, no return number, now name, and he is across the road at a angle from me, and well called FedEx, couldnt reach drivers they dont provide them with phones, so will have to wait until Monday. Monday comes, 7pm, no fedex called well they sent my stuff back to seller, because unverified and couldnt GPS me, now I am so mad I am biting toenails, I email GQF tell them what has happened with stupid fedex, and how I just despise them have for several years now, and no problem will go ahead and send another, there's would get there eventually. Well ordered biddie shippers from McMurray, got USPS email due to snow and weather there would be delays, so okay, well went to town last Thursday get home there is USPS note stuck on door sorry we missed you, you package is in truck, okay its shippers, so still waiting on stupid fedex with change out parts, now wafer hova is acting the fool, or mercury thermometer and digital going to 101 add water cool down continue monitoring, I ask my husband two days later to go get me those shippers to put labels address on before I forget who is what and where, he comes in with a litttle box, its my parts been out there in the truck USPS brought them instead of FEDEX, still no sign of USPS with shippers though, so Roy changed out my parts, and cranks me up, oh post office calls my new 1/2 hodume 1/2 foley white call from Tini Hollingshed has arrived and a case of eggs for me to come get, so through on shoes out the door, I bought 2 dozen Silver appleyard eggs and get a turner full, LOL, great people, just great paid $50 and the postage label on the box says $32, I am like wow, so get those eggs in the hova genisis Roy says wafer hova is straightened out, well get up today and it is on 101, went to turn the dial and the wing nut and all came flying off, so now moving silver appleyard eggs around to make room for Lavender Orph that was a pretty penny and so desperatly wanted, candled them and out of 15 got 10 moving around just having there selves a ball in the shell, so I am just wondering who is jinxing me, LOL, and it hasn't even got laying season yet, oh forgot had 2 hens to go broody a buff orphington and black astralorp so eased a pile of turkey and goose, and duck eggs under them, well Roy has car door open cleaning nasty window so I could see to drive in rain and fog to go to class and slams the door on the dang hens neck and killed her dead, and of course it is the Australorp that was setting, off to eat a bite, now if this aint the start of a great 2011 hatch season I don't know what is,
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well let me go, start calling and finding out where are my shippers and UPS, lol, and where is my this or that, and is this or that ready, and is that or this the way to do this or that, thanks, duckluck for the advice, will try to do better
 
I read your tread. I had some friends who once told me if they did not have bad luck they would not have bad luck at all. I never heard that statement befor but I think sometimes the dear lord does this to test us to see if we will give up.

Zig Zigler calls this the testing phase. He also said in his great book Good Times Never Last but Good People Do to tie a knot on the end of the rope hang on TIMES will get better. I went out to the chicken pen in the woods which is 8x8 and had four Dark Cornihs bantam hens in it. When I looked in the pen two where dead. Then a hawk jumped up to the middle wire trying to get out.

How in the world can a hawk get through a 2x4 inch wire? Do I have to put one inch wire in all my pens to keep them from getting in.

I feel your pain as Bill Clinton use to say but dont give up better times are coming and warmer weather is coming.

I am sick and tired of this cold weather. I wanted to go fishing this afternoon but it is going to be to cold as snow is going to be coming down tonight above us.

I enjoyed the story and told my wife what you told us. UPS has the same problem with us sometimes. This house has been here for 70 years but the GPS reading has us down the road 1/4 of a mile. I think I know what has happen. There has been a shift in our poles and the GPS are off some. Some Airports are reduing their GPS readings for the pilots
so they can hit the run ways dead on in bad weather. bob
 
Well you know Bob, I thought about investing in a trio of Chcolate Orphington bantams and a trio of the full size ones, spoke with a breeder in the UK that is licensed to export, well actually 3 breeders, and I am scared to death to spend $6,500 on 6 chickens, that god only knows with my luck going the way it is, what might, could or probally would happen, and I would have to sleep with them there chickens, because if my husband found out me and them there chickens would probally be in a local 8 motel,
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even though we are married and it is what he calls our money, but money I have raised from buying and selling critters, he would still kill me dead as door nail, with my luck
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Boy if you do this you will have a genessis book of records to buy chickens. There was a lady who paid $5,000. for a breeding pen of Orpingtons in the 1920s. Now these Orpingtons had good type. They had under carrage that was tight and not loose feathered. I have seen pictures of the Orpingtons in England. These are not the Orpingtons I remember from the good old days. Ralph Brazelton breed his birds with good feather quality, type and egg prouduction years ago. They had great type and where true to breed. I wonder if I could get a good old time judge one who I know from Calif and he and I would score these birds with the old point scoring system from the 1930s I bet these C. Orps from England you are talking about would be lucky to score 91 points. They are worth about $20 each.

It almost reminds me of the people who pay $250 or more for a pair of call ducks. Or more. Poor Souls.

Well anyway thats a good story I would have to sleep with these birds to spend that much money. bob
 
I don't know that those souls are so "poor" if they have that money to spend on Calls...I guess it depends upon if the Calls truly have the merit to warrant such an expenditure. I think the person who can afford birds that are truly that caliber is fortunate indeed, and more so the breeder who can breed them. I don't think that $250 for a pair of good Calls is so steep when you consider what people spend on exotic birds in this country...some are birds that are considered pests in other countries and are shot as such. I know if those Calls can produce more like themselves, or better, then they sure are worth the money. They can certainly produce more of their kind than parrots can!

I think anyone who wants to explore the opportunity to import new lines of any kind should certainly avail themselves of them if they have the means to do so, but should take care to see what they buy in person and not just rely on one person's word or opinion...I know someone who bought a number of animals in the UK and imported them. The person who bought them seemed happy with them but spent quite a pretty penny on animals they had never personally seen, in my opinion. I think when making such an expenditure, an international flight to inspect stock is cheap insurance compared to the cost of possibly buying something not worth the effort. I know I wasted a round trip flight down to Texas years ago, but it was better than being disappointed by what I was going to buy if I hadn't seen it first.

Speaking strictly from personal experience, it is far less costly to import from Canada than the UK. I have imported and exported horses from Alberta and to New Brunswick and there was no quarantine involved, and a LOT less paperwork and vet work. This might be a preferable option to get new or seldom-seen lines compared to the considerable cost of just the quarantine for bringing anything in from overseas. I had looked into shipping in from the UK for artificial insemination on one of my mares, and that by itself was tremendously complicated without even considering the upkeep of anything live in a quarantine. There are also hidden costs that can occur that you can't know about until the animal is actually in transit, so if you do decide to try this, be prepared for other things that could happen to take the end cost beyond $6500. There were complications that arose for my friend and their animals had to spend more than the standard time in quarantine, and extra travel expenses were incurred for the animals as well.
 
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well you talked me right out of that Bob, and quick, with them Choc. Orph, but I will get you some pics and see what you think,
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, I am suppose to meet Lee Morey this weekend and get a pair of his latest decendent pair of White calls to add to mine lord if I don't quit adding LOL, he is going to the Newnan Poultry show and we are suppose to meet at a pit stop on his travel route, I hope nothing happens to this plan,
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because I sure am looking forward to seeing his top line. Here is a few links to look at the Orphington line I was inquiring about and you can give me your thoughts:
http://theeggman.doyourownsite.co.uk/page_1889642.html
http://www.glenstockadalepoultry.co.uk/index.html
 
There is an auction at the Foley's site for Chocolate Wyandottes from the UK for $5k for a trio of LF or bantams.

The most I have seen offered for a Call duck is $1000.00 for the great white male Call "Tiger" that belonged to Jeff Corbett of CA. This was twenty years ago and Jeff refused the offer. I have sold a few for $300 each and 2 for $600.00 each. These have all been birds that someone wanted to show and win with. The purchasers had no intention of breeding them.

Walt
 
Yeah, I seen them on that auction, but I just went to the breeder he got them from LOL, trying to work up a better deal, but again, my husband will shoot me dead, you would be coming to a funeral,
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While I haven't expended that much on a single pair of Calls, it's been REALLY close to that.
I don't feel like a poor soul, I feel like I wanted birds from Dennis Fuller, Art Lundgren lines, Lee Morey and Charlie Hodum and I was willing to pay the price.
I've already gotten enough orders for their eggs/offspring to make them pay for themselves-I actually feel pretty lucky to have them.
You want the best, you have to pay for the best-Calls are no exception.
 

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