Barred Rock/Buff Orpington Crosses

[Krys109uk]

Tim,
I think it is something to do with genes in buff. I don't know precisely what. I have had similar results from crossing buff Orps with black based birds. I have crossed the same black based birds with other colours including birds with Co & the offspring have all been entirely black (with normal leakage).
This is puzzling as it is not what is expected. I have wondered what might cause this I have hypothesised that perhaps when het E/eWh, Db might be able to restrict the black to some extent.
I have seen the same effect every time I have seen someone post pics of buff Orps crossed with black based birds of various breeds. I can't see that all of the black based birds from the various crossings will have been ER; it would be too much of a coincidence, don't you think?

 

[IAK]

Thanks for the pictures and the genetics lessons everyone. It's great to see so many knowledgeable people comment.

Disregarding the appearance of a BR roo/BO hen cross, would the offspring still display the typical hybrid vigor of a sex link chick? In other words, would they approach or meet the performance of black sex links as far as growth, maturation, and egg laying qualities?

 

[tadkerson]

Look Another sex linked question.

You never know if a cross is going to improve any of the characteristics you listed. It takes years of research to determine if two lines of birds actually produce hybrid vigor. The average back yard breeder dos not have the ability to do such work.

So my answer is you will never know. The cross on the average should not produce birds that perform at a lower level than the adults.

I have noticed that in the birds I raise that specific individuals grow faster and mature at an earlier date. I hatch hundreds of birds a year.

If a person wants to improve their flock, each year they would cross their birds and select breeders that grow the fastest and mature at an early age. Eventually the selection will reach a capacity limited by the genetics of the group. Egg laying ability can be worked on at the same time. To obtain the best research an individual would have to trap test the hens and keep records for each pullet over a specific period of time and under certain conditions. I do not trap nest because of the time involved. What I do is keep track of a group of new birds. I record the egg mass of each egg and number of eggs from the group. Then use statistics to analyze the group.

Tim

 

[hammytammy]

Hey--



its a few springs later,

what tune are you whistling about your barred gene project now ?
are you still experimenting? you were using barred males for the exp right?
if you can, show some pics - id like to see them. i bet their interesting.
ty
tam

 

[PEIchickenlady]

Great information! I want to hear more Tim.

 

[FlomatonsFlocks]

I was told and believe that this is a Buff/BarRock cross. Not positive but through looking at other photos, I believe it. Just don't know which was the Roo. Much more beautiful in person!

 

[Manhen]

then they will leak gold.

New to the breeding lingo here, but are you talking gooses and their eggs??

I have a 11 month BO and two BR Hens via Cackle's hatchery's choice of rainbow egg basket hens. "Marco Pollo" does not know he is a hen and is the top cock of four in the yard. So what are the offspring's egg's like and how many I wonder?

 

[Manhen]

Recently have done BR over BBS Ameraucana,

How did this work out?

 

[speckledhen]

Got barred EEs, one that looked like a blue barred EE, beard and muffs and her half sister with no beard (just lost her at 12 years old)
Here they are, Riley who passsed away a long time back, and Panda, who just died. Same BR sire, same Blue Ameraucana mother.

 

[airynn]

I crossed a buff laced polish roo with a barred rock hen and kept the rooster that resulted. He is barred with streamers and flecks of the buff in his hackle and tail feathers. I want to cross him back to a WCB Polish hen. What are my color possibilities? Will the offspring look polish? Would pictures of the two birds help?