Baytril Not Working

Discussion in 'Peafowl' started by Shepicca, Jul 22, 2010.

  1. Shepicca

    Shepicca Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Just dosed the Pied peacock for the 4th evening with Baytril and I have to say he doesn't sound any better:( His eyes and nose are still clear but his breathing is still raspy and fluidy. He sounds like a blocked sink.
    I thought the Baytril was supposed to be the best stuff out there and that there should be a marked difference by now. Should I keep going with it, for how long?
    When we first got him (a week ago Wednesday) we gave him 0.2cc ivomec down his throat as a dewormer so I think that should have taken care of any gape worms or other types of worms.
    Not sure where to go from here

    Irene
     
  2. Steve_of_sandspoultry

    Steve_of_sandspoultry Overrun With Chickens

    Did you try Tylan? Sometimes they have it so bad it's hard to get rid of. A couple years ago a friend of mine had a bird like that, he treated and treated and kept uping the dosage. He said i'm going to cure it or kill it. he finally cured it, then it came back, treated again. It took a couple go arounds before he finally got it. Last I saw him he still had it and was doing fine.


    Steve
     
  3. FourPawz

    FourPawz Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:Follow your veterinarian's suggestion on how long to use the Baytril. You are correct, this is one of the last hope antibiotics. You absolutely need to finish the course of medicine unless your vet says otherwise, because to stop too early makes bacteria resistant to the drug. Research cannot keep up with the rate of antibiotic resistance that is neutralizing almost all existing antibiotics. Ask your vet, your professional, on what to do as far as treating this bird.

    Failure to use antibiotics responsibly and safely could cost lives, both animal and human, down the road.
     
  4. Shepicca

    Shepicca Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I just talked to an old bird friend and his thoughts were that if the tetracycline, Baytril and Ivomec had made no difference to the bird he might not be sick at all. The bird hasn't got any better since he got here and he hasn't got any worse. The man is suggesting that the bird had an earlier respiratory infection that he got over but now has scarring on his lungs and will sound like this for the rest of his life.
    Thoughts?

    Irene

    Steve, no I haven't tried Tylan yet, started with Batril which was supposed to be the best antibiotic for respiratory infections.
     
  5. theoldchick

    theoldchick The Chicken Whisperer Premium Member

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    Has your veterinarian suggested a tracheal wash with a culture and sensitivity test performed to determine exactly what is going on? All these drugs mentioned will work on bacterial infections, however, if you are dealing with a fungal infection another medication will be prescribed. Scarring of the respiratory tract will cause raspy noises. Make sure the patient is kept in a dust free environment. Cases like these are challenging and are a learning experience for all involved.
     
  6. Choctaw Valley Farm

    Choctaw Valley Farm Chillin' With My Peeps

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    If you are giving him all them drugs you will need to stop or he will OD, Ivomec is for worms and is not an antibiotic you will have to give the med time to work when you take stuff for the flu you are not well in three days when you have been sick for a week or two.

    I would not give him anything for a day or two to get all the meds out of him, then start with Baytril only for three days and see what happens your Baytril may not be as strong as it is over here.
     
  7. Shepicca

    Shepicca Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:He had one shot of ivomec down his throat for worms the day he arrived. He was on tetracycline for 5 days (with no affect) until I managed to get the baytril. He is getting 30mg of baytril (only) a day and has been for the last 4 days. According to the UPA web site it says to give a 22.7mg tablet of baytril a day for 3 days. I only have 15mg ones here so went upwards with the dosage. I thought I would have seen some difference in him if I am supposed to actually stop the baytril after day 3?
    If he has a respirstory infection, shouldn't his eyes and nose be affected too?

    Irene
     
  8. Frosty

    Frosty Chillin' With My Peeps

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    From the Merck Veterinary manual, see if any of this sounds like a possibility?
    http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?cfile=htm/bc/206700.htm
    Infectious laryngotracheitis (ILT) is an acute, highly contagious, herpesvirus infection of chickens and pheasants characterized by severe dyspnea, coughing, and rales. It can also be a subacute disease with lacrimation, tracheitis, conjunctivitis, and mild rales. It has been reported from most areas of the USA in which poultry are intensively reared, as well as from many other countries.
    Clinical Findings:
    In the acute form, gasping, coughing, rattling, and extension of the neck during inspiration are seen 5-12 days after natural exposure. Reduced productivity is a varying factor in laying flocks. Affected birds are anorectic and inactive. The mouth and beak may be bloodstained from the tracheal exudate. Mortality varies, but may reach 50% in adults, and is usually due to occlusion of the trachea by hemorrhage or exudate. Signs usually subside after ~2 wk, although birds may cough for 1 mo. Strains of low virulence produce little or no mortality with slight respiratory signs and lesions and a slight decrease in egg production.
    After recovery, some birds remain carriers for extended periods and become a source of infection for susceptible birds. The latent virus can be reactivated under stressful conditions. Infection also may be spread mechanically. Several epidemics have been traced to the transport of birds in contaminated crates.

    Perhaps he had this or something like it in the past and the stress of the move brought it back?
     

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