BBS (Blue Black Splash) Marans - Pumperkinz

[wrathsfarm]

I think he has better type, but he's got sprigs on his comb, which again is a DQ and I think his tail is going to get worse.

 

[wrathsfarm]

Who's this BCM guy?

Honestly between those 4- 2 BCMs, the Blue and Splash? I'd cull the 2 BCMs... sprigs and Squirrel tail are a hard no in my opinion. Lets see what @BlueTheBrahma has to say.

 

[BlueTheBrahma]

I think he has better type, but he's got sprigs on his comb, which again is a DQ and I think his tail is going to get worse. View attachment 4215205

For me, this is the obvious cull. Side springs and squirrel tail have no place in the gene pool when you have perfectly good alternatives.

 

[BlueTheBrahma]

Personally, I’d cull both BCMs and use the Blue to breed more blacks from. The blue is really nice, so is the splash from what I can see.

 

[BlueTheBrahma]

I know he’s not the focus but I really like the type of this Blue GCM. If you were willing to risk a dilution to copper for improved type, I’d consider this guy.

I can’t see his face though.

 

[wrathsfarm]

View attachment 4215326I know he’s not the focus but I really like the type of this Blue GCM. If you were willing to risk a dilution to copper for improved type, I’d consider this guy.

I can’t see his face though.

Would you mind breaking down the breed process for using this guy? I'd be interested in hearing, just for curiosity.

 

[Pumperkinz]

Would you mind breaking down the breed process for using this guy? I'd be interested in hearing, just for curiosity.

I also have two GCM's in the mix. Right tail is not good, left tail is much tidier.
I could in theory keep a few of them and put them in their own run/coop out in the lawn and just move it for grazing.I think my wife would only slightly disown me for keeping back up roosters in a bachelor pen lol.

 

[Pumperkinz]

There is also three of the BCM, One over melanized, one with the squiggly tail, and then one that's not too bad but has a good bit of gold. The thing is currently my main BCM has too much gold, and tail is not good.
The other thing to note is the Blue CM has a great personality (gentle/sweet). I don't always care about politeness with roos, but it is something that when the stars align I'll take.

@wrathsfarm the blue's are from cedars just for note + the splash.

The BCMs are all from chasin shade farms out of tx.

I'd say Cedar has the more consistent ones, and I'd be tempted to grab some of his BCM's just to see his line better.

This is his BCM's from last year -

 

[wrathsfarm]

Ok, I thought I noticed that 3rd one. Yes, I remember you saying you had no BCMs from Cedar.

Foot note...I may seem like I'm being nitpicky as I'm searching for that best looking cock myself, I'm by no means knocking other breeders birds. I've got plenty of issues with my own flock also and finding that one in a hundred that's a good breed cock is hard, but we use what we have. We just don't use obvious culls and DQs that won't move us forward. These last couple years I've favored my boys and posted lots of pics, this has got me really looking at them hard and learning that having a good or bad roo is the foundation of our program. It really all starts and ends with our roosters in BCMs. Good or bad.

There is also three of the BCM, One over melanized, one with the squiggly tail, and then one that's not too bad but has a good bit of gold. The thing is currently my main BCM has too much gold, and tail is not good.
The other thing to note is the Blue CM has a great personality (gentle/sweet). I don't always care about politeness with roos, but it is something that when the stars align I'll take.

@wrathsfarm the blue's are from cedars just for note + the splash.

The BCMs are all from chasin shade farms out of tx.

I'd say Cedar has the more consistent ones, and I'd be tempted to grab some of his BCM's just to see his line better.

This is his BCM's from last year - View attachment 4215354

 

[Pumperkinz]

Ok, I thought I noticed that 3rd one. Yes, I remember you saying you had no BCMs from Cedar.

Foot note...I may seem like I'm being nitpicky as I'm searching for that best looking cock myself, I'm by no means knocking other breeders birds. I've got plenty of issues with my own flock also and finding that one in a hundred that's a good breed cock is hard, but we use what we have. We just don't use obvious culls and DQs that won't move us forward. These last couple years I've favored my boys and posted lots of pics, this has got me really looking at them hard and learning that having a good or bad roo is the foundation of our program. It really all starts and ends with our roosters in BCMs. Good or bad.

100% agree!

Oh you are good! I just am learning and want to make the best selections I can with what I have. I don't want to introduce a bigger issue down the line either. (Poor genetics, poor standards, or obvious DQ's). Like most of the locals don't care as they will never show birds.

And thank you so much for the help!