Beige vs. Platinum Blue

[Coopacabana]

My next question: what is the genetics of the color in this bird's tail? I know it's hard to tell with seramas. This is not my bird.

Is he khaki, like this beautiful polish belonging to http://tideviewbantams.webs.com ?

 

[Coopacabana]

anybody?

 

[Coopacabana]

any ideas?

 

[nicalandia]

the color on that serama's tail is similar to what a doulbe dose of Dun can do to a black tail. you see dun/chocolate is onle one copy of dun I^D but two copies of this gene will turn black feathers into that type of color. so this bird is mostly I^D/I^D

click on this link to see a similar colored tailed bird
http://www.google.com/imgres?q=dun+...dsp=32&ved=1t:429,r:10,s:0,i:112&tx=121&ty=41

 

[Coopacabana]

Thanks!

 

[nicalandia]

Thanks!

no problem friend

 

[smoothmule]

I'm a little late to chime in but I have yet to see a single "confirmed" dun based color in Serama's. I have had the color of the rooster above and it is splash pumpkin, not dun based. I was able to confirm this by breeding.



I have prove duns and chocolates and I hatched a chick yesterday that appears to be beige, Nicalandia, what do you think on this chick??
This chick is out of a dun Sumatra hen
The sire is a black, split for chocolate cockerel (half Araucana, half choc Orp/black Ameraucana)







Beige chick at top, Dun then black in the middle and chocolate (recessive) at the bottom

 

[Henk69]

I see 3 blacks and a chocolate (or maybe dun).

How did you prove a rooster to be splash pumpkin without dun?

 

[smoothmule]

I have yet to see a true, genetic dun in the Serama breed here. Not one. I have had plenty of the pumpkin (called pumpkin by Cat) and they bred as she said they would. The Serama above is not dun. If you breed that cock to a black hen, you will never get a chocolate dun. I had plenty that color.

As far as my chick photo's, there is only one black chick in the four. Lighting doesn't show the dun chick well. They look sort of bluish when they first hatch, then sort of black but feather out dark chocolate dun color. The chick at the top is the one that may be dun plus recessive chocolate. The one on the very bottom is recessive chocolate only. The ones in the middle are a black and a dun chick, dun on the left, black on the right.

Here is the dun chick (on the left below) with the recessive chocolate chick on the right soon after hatching. Better lighting helps and because it's not all fluffy, the dun coloring is much more obvious. They are bluish looking at the start then fluffy and look black then feathering out a dark chocolate color but the hue is cooler than the recessive chocolate chicks. I have one good sized dun chicks all feathered out that I'll take photo's of this weekend. It's been dark by the time I get home from work lately.

 

[smoothmule]

Maybe this photo will show the dun chick better? A black chick out front, then the light chick on top, then dun then chocolate at the bottom. I agree the difference is very subtle but in person, it's obvious.



These photo's were all taken inside my chick building, at night. As they get a little older, I'll get better pictures.
Light chick at the top, then black chick, then dun chick then chocolate in this picture