Here is what may be a dumb question- if the chick was beige, it would have to be dun and chocolate right? If that is the case, the sumatra hen would also have to be carrying chocolate in order for it to show up since the rooster was only a split, right? I haven't had any experience with chocolate other than having it pop up in seramas so I am just curiousI'm a little late to chime in but I have yet to see a single "confirmed" dun based color in Serama's. I have had the color of the rooster above and it is splash pumpkin, not dun based. I was able to confirm this by breeding.
I have prove duns and chocolates and I hatched a chick yesterday that appears to be beige, Nicalandia, what do you think on this chick??
This chick is out of a dun Sumatra hen
The sire is a black, split for chocolate cockerel (half Araucana, half choc Orp/black Ameraucana)
Beige chick at top, Dun then black in the middle and chocolate (recessive) at the bottom
When the cockerel is split for chocolate, he carries only one gene. This is a sex linked recessive so the cockerels require 2 genes for the chocolate phenotype (so he can "be" chocolate). A hen only requires one of these genes to "be" or "show" chocolate so a split chocolate cockerel can produce chocolate pullets (50/50 chocolates and non chocolates) but all the cockerels will be non chocolate looking but half of those chicks will also carry chocolate.
I've hatched a lot of the pumpkin chicks and they always bred and produced as Cat would say they would. In several years of breeding for me, and many more by Cat, not a single dun chocolate chick was ever produced from the Pumpkins. They may be some sort of dominant white gene like dun but they are not dun and I really do not believe there is a single dun in Serama's. I searched for the past couple of years without success, wanting one. I have chocolate Serama's but even when breeders told me they had dun Serama's, they didn't breed as dun should.
I've hatched a lot of the pumpkin chicks and they always bred and produced as Cat would say they would. In several years of breeding for me, and many more by Cat, not a single dun chocolate chick was ever produced from the Pumpkins. They may be some sort of dominant white gene like dun but they are not dun and I really do not believe there is a single dun in Serama's. I searched for the past couple of years without success, wanting one. I have chocolate Serama's but even when breeders told me they had dun Serama's, they didn't breed as dun should.
This is Zsa Zsa. She is recessive/sex linked chocolate and breeds as one should.
The offspring were all either wheaten (messy marked and likely wheaten with wild type. The red and black were both diluted with one copy but nothing that looked like one copy of dun. When I bred them together, both the red and the black were diluted a lot, not white but close. Bred to solid black, I would have expected some solid hens in black or chocolate if this was dun but there was never a chocolate looking chick that ever made me think dun and they all had a lot of pale red leakage.
Don't underestimate the variability of dun (and chocolate). Were these animals 100% gold based?
I think they were. No chicks hatched silver.
