Biggest waste of government money ever

[MamaRoo]

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I also think this is the case, but haven't been able to find any lovely charts or other display devices that show this. Do you have any links?

The only one I've seen is for Washington State only. http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/welfare-state/Content?oid=6686284

 

[DHinton]

I also think this is the case, but haven't been able to find any lovely charts or other display devices that show this. Do you have any links?

The only one I've seen is for Washington State only. http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/welfare-state/Content?oid=6686284

i quit keeping up with it about a year ago, after researching for a while; because, i kept hearing about how "all those minorities" are sucking up all the SNAP and "white folks" can't get any.

 

[DHinton]

to be honest, what it boiled down to me was pretty simple.

am i upset with a person using snap, that has an iphone (which COULD have been a present), or that is driving a car that might've cost $30,000?

not in the slightest.

not when megacorporations, who post countless billions in profits every quarter, annually receive BILLIONS of taxpayer dollars in "subsidies", get billions of dollar of tax incentives, breaks, loopholes, etc.

take G.E. for example, and their HUGE (billions of dollars) of tax refunds they receive every year, along with all the billions in subsidies for the different branches of G.E., along with even more billions in tax cuts/breaks/loopholes/incentives.

how many households, fulltime on SNAP, welfare, housing assistance, etc would it take to equal the amount of money that we lavish upon JUST G.E. every. single. year. ??


and if someone is fine with that... what kind of hypocrite are they, if they take offense that the lady with 4 kids has an iphone and is using snap? because, God knows, that piddly $300/month she's getting VASTLY OVERWHELMS $20 billion going to G.E. or, it might just be racism. but no one is racist, and you can't ever call anyone racist, cuz EVERYONE has a friend who is a minority of some sort, therefore, there's no way they could possibly be racist.

 

[DHinton]

THEN, take into account that you can work fulltime at places like Wal-Mart, and they (walmart) will help you fill out the paperwork to collect SNAP, welfare, housing assistance, etc. because that's how LITTLE monsters like wal-mart pay most of their employees.

so, there are a LOT of people who work hard for their money... get paid nada, and use the social safety net.

but, it's a lot easier to just blame "those people" and pretend like the fault lies with the poor, the needy, the hungry, the homeless...

because that IS what Jesus did... at least, that must be what Jesus did, since that's the sort of "stuff" i hear good christian folk saying all the time.

good thing we don't have a huge statue of some woman, chillin in a harbor somewhere...


With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

 

[hemet dennis]

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No we are all not. And if you are then you planned wrong. The older you are the farther you should be from it.

 

[hemet dennis]

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Changing how you throw the money at a problem isn't really changing how you're treating the problem.
I must have missed where I pointed out any "Unverifiable anecdotes and baseless accusations of laziness"
You can bring up corporate welfare, and global warming, and the war in Syria, and Obama giving money to Africa that we will have to borrow. But I thought we were talking about food stamps.

 

[DHinton]

No we are all not. And if you are then you planned wrong. The older you are the farther you should be from it.

really? because i lost a 401k around 2000 all thanks to the fraud committed by mci/worldcom (my employer at the time). got laid off in 2003 and used up a ton of savings finding a job over the next several months. THEN... want to guess what happened to my latest 401k in 2008?

i know quite a number of people who, literally, came out of retirement BECAUSE of what happened in/around 2000, and even more in 2008.

they had spent all their lives saving up for retirement.

but it's good to know, that you won't ever get cancer - go through hundreds of thousands of dollars, get booted from insurance, and have to conduct fund raisers, and be dirt poor with bill collectors calling nonstop because you DARED to get cancer... like so many REAL Americans have had to do.

there are hundreds, if not thousands, of examples that i can give of people being responsible with their money all their lives - and them needing to use the social safety net.

by the by, those people working fulltime at places like wal-mart - and making so little that they DO qualify for SNAP, and welfare and such -- what money EXACTLY are they putting up into savings, 401ks, IRAs, etc? this includes people who HAVE college degrees. many of them, and they are even in a rougher position because of student loans.


but hey, it's good to know you feel that actual Americans should've been saving and well off in retirement; but you don't comment on the countless billions of tax dollars that go towards "subsidies" for multi billion dollar corporations every year.

 

[hemet dennis]

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I also think this is the case, but haven't been able to find any lovely charts or other display devices that show this. Do you have any links?

The only one I've seen is for Washington State only. http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/welfare-state/Content?oid=6686284

That's the silliest case of comparing apples to oranges I have seen in a long time.
On the DSHS part they didn't list the number of people collecting in each county.
When you build a road in the city that 10,000 people will use and you build one in the country that a 1,000 people will use they cost the same but per person it will be more in the country.
Whites are the majority of food stamp/snap recipients but they didn't say what percentage of whites collect and what percentage of other races collect now did they It's not to hard to look up.

 

[hemet dennis]

THEN, take into account that you can work fulltime at places like Wal-Mart, and they (walmart) will help you fill out the paperwork to collect SNAP, welfare, housing assistance, etc. because that's how LITTLE monsters like wal-mart pay most of their employees.

so, there are a LOT of people who work hard for their money... get paid nada, and use the social safety net.

but, it's a lot easier to just blame "those people" and pretend like the fault lies with the poor, the needy, the hungry, the homeless...

because that IS what Jesus did... at least, that must be what Jesus did, since that's the sort of "stuff" i hear good christian folk saying all the time.

good thing we don't have a huge statue of some woman, chillin in a harbor somewhere...


With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Wal-Mart is a good place to work under 2 conditions. 1 if you plan on moving up in the company and earning more then min. wage and 2 if you're going to school or training for a job at another company.
If you don't like them don't shop there. But it would seem that millions love them.

 

[hemet dennis]

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Just pointing out we are not "all" in that position.
So in 2007 you didn't move your 401K from stocks to a cash fund ? Don't tell me you didn't see the housing crash coming.