Black Copper Marans and Cuckoo Splash

[tdgill]

oh cool halo!

sure thing pinkchick!

 

[blackdotte]

You should be honest and call him what he is; a cross bred bird.

 

[tdgill]

honest...by all means! Thats why I'm asking A crossbred gotcha. Even though both parents are purebred marans but different feathering? You can see I am still new to all of this. So if you breed a black lab with a chocolate lab its still a purebred but not so with birds?

 

[pinkchick]

halo~ What a beautiful bird!

Gosh Dang these 2 boys are pretty!

WoW!!!!!!!

 

[WildernessLofts]

The barring came from BOTH parents, not just the mother. Barring is a sex-linked gene. Birds are opposite of mammals in the respect that males are the ones with the double chromosomes (ZZ) and females have the single (ZW). If you have a barred rooster and a normal hen, all of the females produced from the cross will be barred and all of the males will carry the gene for it.

Therefore, your copper rooster carries the gene for barred hidden away and you should be able to get both males and females that are barred from that mating.

 

[Chris09]

Quote:
If you cross a Barred Rooster over a Non-Barred hen ALL offspring will be Barred.
If you cross a Non-Barred Rooster over a Barred hen the Cockerels only are Barred and Pullets are Black..

Chris

 

[TurtleFeathers]

Quote:
If you cross a Barred Rooster over a Non-Barred hen ALL offspring will be Barred.
If you cross a Non-Barred Rooster over a Barred hen the Cockerels only are Barred and Pullets are Black..

Chris

Not to mention, barring cannot be "carried" or "hidden" - either its a visual barred bird or its not barred at all. The OP's splash hen must be so light that the barring can't be seen, but its there - because SHE is the one that passed it on to her son (hens pass the gene to their male offspring, males pass it on to both males and females). And since she passed on only one copy of the barring gene to her son, that makes him a "single factor" barred. And single factor roosters *can* (but don't always), have solid colored feathers amongst the barred feathers.

 

[blackdotte]

To tdgill, in the case of your Labs they are both basically the same genetically, just that the Choc has a diluter gene & the black doesn't.
Cuckoo Marans are based on the Extended Black gene, & BCs on the Birchen gene.

 

[bigoledude]

He is something "LESS" to some folks because of being a "CROSSBRED" bird. But, I'd buy a yard full of them!

Nearly 40 years ago, my brother had just won his 3rd field trial of the year and we had about a thousand miles left to drive to get home. We stopped at a feed store and a woman spotted my brother's champion lab that had scored higher than any other water dog in the US that year. She said something like "You MUST learn to cull inferior dogs to prevent these ugly ones".

 

[SixHix]

"If you cross a Barred Rooster over a Non-Barred hen ALL offspring will be Barred.
If you cross a Non-Barred Rooster over a Barred hen the Cockerels only are Barred and Pullets are Black..

Chris"

Can't a barred rooster be heterozygous for the barring gene? So couldn't some barred roosters produce 50/50 barred/unbarred when crossed with unbarred hen regardless of sex of the offspring?